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Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

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Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

#201

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you are taking it for granted that corporations should largely be given the same civil rights as private citizens, as decided in citizens united v. FEC, but in my view this was one of the worst decisions to ever come out of the supreme court.

Hmm, maybe, I haven't thought about it much. The angle I'm taking is, as a private citizen I choose not to do business with entities I think are immoral, such as Amazon and Home Depot and Hobby Lobby and Uline and Tesla. If I were a business owner, I would prefer to continue to not to do business with those entities and I'd be pretty pissed if I was forced to by the government. That does seem to agree with your "same…

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Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

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post #3

It pains me to say this, but this might actually be a valid use case for cryptocurrency. These companies are cowards.

This is literally the original use case for cryptocurrency.

Unfortunately that part never became practicable, and the only use cases that gained traction are speculation, fraud, extortion, and dark web marketplaces.

Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

#203
post #86

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That gets pretty controversial. Is this issue always controversial? Is it controversial that companies aren't allowed to refuse service based on gender or race (in the US at least)?

> Is it controversial that companies aren't allowed to refuse service based on gender or race (in the US at least)? Those are legal categories known as "protected classes," and yeah, it was and is pretty controversial[1]. I think you'd have a hard time getting purchasers of porn games declared a protected class. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964 ; further reading, https://en.wikipedia.org/wik…

Actually, it's not really controversial anymore [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

#205

Cryptocurrencies are sufficiently diverse and popular in this day and age that this should be a non-issue at this time. So many sites accept them already. I even advise using Monero to fully shield the user.

Diverse, yes - but I wouldn't call it popular as a means of making regular financial transaction. I would certainly only use it as last resort. Too slow, too cumbersome, most of the benefits being overstated or misunderstood. Even in this case, while you certainly can't block the transaction from going through, the site still needs a payment provider to manage transactions which someone might pressure into not workin…

If you don't want to do it, you will find a million ways and excuses to not do it. Those who want or need it will find a way, and such ways have existed for over a decade.

Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

#206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you are taking it for granted that corporations should largely be given the same civil rights as private citizens, as decided in citizens united v. FEC, but in my view this was one of the worst decisions to ever come out of the supreme court.

Hmm, maybe, I haven't thought about it much. The angle I'm taking is, as a private citizen I choose not to do business with entities I think are immoral, such as Amazon and Home Depot and Hobby Lobby and Uline and Tesla. If I were a business owner, I would prefer to continue to not to do business with those entities and I'd be pretty pissed if I was forced to by the government. That does seem to agree with your "same…

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Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

#207
post #142

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You should kick up a major fuss. Call the media. Write a blog post. These companies should not be the moderator of what is socially acceptable.

if only a decentralized alternative had not become a money laundering tool and financial instrument

Hmm I wonder how that happened?

Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

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post #2

Payments are pretty much 'public infrastructure' at this point and should be treated the same as utilities. ie they should be required to provide service for anything legal.

I mean this is just the ultimate form of price discrimination which happens to be legal. My question is why? This industry (payments) is completely driven by financials and occasionally regulations. They have no dog in a moral fight, so this must be about profits to them.

This feels naive. Power is a goal too and clearly they’re pursuing that.

Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

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post #204

Not sure if stuff like WERO will help. I talked to a social worker who works with sex workers, and apparently a major problem they have is that local banks refuse them as customers. Which is ridiculous. Why should a sex worker not be able to open a bank account?

Because whores must be punished.

First day in the USA?

And for those that need it: */s*

Re: Against the censorship of adult content by payment processors

#210

At least in Japan, I'm surprised that they haven't expanded Suica and similar systems to include online shopping.

DLSite (the closest thing to a Japanese itch.io) was one of the first targets of this push over a year ago. I'm pretty sure they just stopped accepting Visa/Mastercard on the site but set up a weird 'third party' where you could buy 'DLSite points' with your credit card.
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