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My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by fsloth »

crinkly wrote: post #188
kaffekaka wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where in lies the dishonesty? Having the AI just getting the wheels turning when I'm not in the mood myself has many times been a good way to make progress.

When you say progress, I wonder at what cost. The apparatus for original thought isn't used and pushing through a problem and deriving the satisfaction of doing that doesn't happen. That leads to the wrong motivational cues. The brain is lazy and likes to take the easy route. Eventually you become merely a machine operator, which is something a lot of my colleagues are starting to do. And it's very worrying. The bias…

I agree with you both. I feel LLM kills both procrastination AND capability for original thought.

But! There are some problems that are intrinsically interesting to me and others that are boring as hell but need to be solved.

In 20 years of work I’ve not come up with any way to make those boring tasks psychologically _not_ so disagreeable they are close to painfull.

But now the LLM can do whatever crap it does for those and I _finally_ can focus just on the interesting bits.

So, a boring task - off to the LLM you go - interesting - it’s mine, all mine!

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by anothernewdude »

iambateman wrote: post #7

Claude Code is hard to describe. It’s almost like I changed jobs when I started using it. I’ve been all-in with Claude as a workflow tool, but this is literally steroids. If you haven’t tried it, I can’t recommend it enough. It’s the first time it really does feel like working with a junior engineer to me.

I agree with the comparison to steroids, but then I've seen people go through the health issues caused by steroids so we might mean different things by that comparison.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by Scarblac »

crinkly wrote: post #170
hamandcheese wrote: post #168

For me the best part about AI is that when I'm feeling lazy, I can tell the AI to do it. Whether it gives me gold or gives me shit, it doesn't matter, because I have now started my work.

I go for a walk and have a coffee. It feels less intellectually dishonest. Best to solve human problems with human solutions.

But then you still haven't started.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by koolba »

darkwater wrote: post #195
rovr138 wrote: post #194

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The way I do this is by still writing tests.

Do tests let you understand a codebase you have not written?

They can. Particularly if you use them to validate your assumptions about the code.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by oldenlessons »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #152
deadbabe wrote: post #141

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Code is not the bottleneck.

> Code is not the bottleneck. Understanding the problem to solve is.

Yup. Code is liability. Understanding it is the corresponding asset. Generating more code that is less well understood is akin to increasing leverage.

Or: buying a super car might make your commute feel faster. But if everyone did it, we'd have a lot more congestion and a lot more pollution.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by vitaflo »

thegrim33 wrote: post #34
pragmatic wrote: post #13

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Could you elaborate a bit on the tasks,languages,domain etc you’re using it with? People have such widely varying experiences and I’m wondering why.

I find it pretty interesting that it's a roughly 2,500 word article on "using Claude Code" and they never once actually explain what they're using it for, what type of project they're coding. It's all just so generic. I read some of it then realize that there was absolutely no substance in what I just read. It's also another in my growing list of data points towards my opinion that if an author posts meme pictures in…

It’s always telling when people don’t show their work. I’m not saying LLMs can’t do a good job but if you’re not even explaining the steps you used or showing the code that was generated or fixed then I have to assume what was really produced was unmaintainable spaghetti code that just happened to compile.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by dude250711 »

nikcub wrote: post #172
dude250711 wrote: post #86

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How come CC is a crappy terminal instead of some super-nice environment built by Anthropic via CC itself? It should be capable of rebuilding VS Code but better, no?

because their philosophy is that developers are tied to their editors and IDE's so you should be able to bring you're own. and they're right.

Where are the awesome deeply-integrated add-ins/extensions for all popular IDEs then?

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by dude250711 »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #123
dude250711 wrote: post #85

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How are you guys happy with an 80-s looking terminal interface is beyond me... If Claude is so amazing, could Anthropic not make their own fully-featured yet super-performant IDE in like a week?

Free yourself from the shackles of the GUI.

Free yourself from the shackles or displays too? Back to punched cards?

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by danielbln »

hamandcheese wrote: post #168

For me the best part about AI is that when I'm feeling lazy, I can tell the AI to do it. Whether it gives me gold or gives me shit, it doesn't matter, because I have now started my work.

It's the white page problem, that LLMs solve handily. Instead of facing the daunting task of building back up a complex mental model, I can ask the machine "yo, what were we doing? what's this thing? ok, how about you give it a spin and show me" and all of the sudden I'm back in it and can get cracking. That, and rubber ducking, and speeding up yak shaving to the nth degree really make this thing very useful to me. I also have various data sources hooked up (slack, notion, linear) so it's also a task management and project management tool for me.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by danielbln »

fsloth wrote: post #201
crinkly wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say progress, I wonder at what cost. The apparatus for original thought isn't used and pushing through a problem and deriving the satisfaction of doing that doesn't happen. That leads to the wrong motivational cues. The brain is lazy and likes to take the easy route. Eventually you become merely a machine operator, which is something a lot of my colleagues are starting to do. And it's very worrying. The bias…

I agree with you both. I feel LLM kills both procrastination AND capability for original thought. But! There are some problems that are intrinsically interesting to me and others that are boring as hell but need to be solved. In 20 years of work I’ve not come up with any way to make those boring tasks psychologically _not_ so disagreeable they are close to painfull. But now the LLM can do whatever crap it does for th…

> So, a boring task - off to the LLM you go - interesting - it’s mine, all mine!

Yes! And hell, checking out how the machine solved a boring thing can still be a source of interest in itself, so the dopamine squeezing novelty keeps on flowing all day long.

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