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Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by qudat »

karaterobot wrote: post #108

Search engines are getting squeezed out by AI for me. Kagi's search results are less polluted by SEO trash than Google, but there's still a non-zero amount of it. When I try to answer a question using Kagi (or any search engine these days) I end up feeling frustrated: there's so much information, and none of it is useful. On the other hand, ChatGPT filters all SEO spam out for me, and typically does a decent job of a…

> Search engines are getting squeezed out by AI for me.

I use Kagi Assistant which uses LLMs from AI companies mixed with their own indexes. It works great and is included with Kagi.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by throw123xz »

dingnuts wrote: post #48
jwr wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This kind of whataboutism is what leads to the current sad state of the world. One can look at any moral choice issue, say "but what about… [insert something here]" and then proceed to ignore it and do nothing. I choose to take moral stands. Yes, it might be insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but I still choose to do so. Having read the (rather disappointing) responses: all of them create some sort of artif…

Oh you're taking a moral stance? So how do you get by without search? Because surely Google and Microsoft have many other moral problems, likely even the same ones. But you're morally pure so you use no search at all right?

You can install an adblocker and Google/Microsoft end up losing money if you use them. You can't stop Kagi from sending money to Yandex, unless of course you stop using Kagi.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by adhamsalama »

eldaisfish wrote: post #156
vickychijwani wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s ironic the way you put it - the US has also invaded many countries, is responsible for a lot of cyber crime, and uses misinformation to sow chaos in other countries [1]. Should we all stop “funding“ the US? Somehow Ukranian lives are precious, but Iraqi and Bangladeshi lives are not? I have no horse in this race - I’m neither American nor Russian, nor do I particularly love either country. But I am tired of US h…

let's not pretend that US democracy, flaws included, is in any way comparable to Russia. Please, you know this is a bad faith argument, so let's cut the false equivalence. I dislike the US as much as anyone, but I appreciate that the US is much better than Russia.

How many countries have Russia invaded in the last 50 years? And the same for the US?

The US invaded more and killed more innocent civilians, so pretending it's any better than Russia is hypocrisy at best.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by coldpie »

decimalenough wrote: post #194
coldpie wrote: post #90

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> In almost all cases, the search results are as good as or better than Google Could you (or someone) share some specific search terms that you feel are better than Google? I've tried Kagi a few times and felt no significant difference in the results.

Try anything related to visas. "us esta", "canada eta". On Kagi, the official government site is always the first result. On Google, it's buried beneath an avalanche of scammy lookalike services that pay for ads and SEO.

The government sites are the first result for both searches on Google for me.

https://smokingonabike.com/images/upload/kagi_20250717_1.png

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Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by tomjen3 »

threetonesun wrote: post #9
PokemonNoGo wrote: post #3

Do they still use Yandex? >I’ve been a happy Kagi user since early 2023 I was an unhappy Kagi user when I learnt it relied on Russian back ends fueling a war. Now I'm not a user anymore.

You're gonna have a hard time using anything right now if you want to avoid services run in a country not spending on a war somewhere.

Thats not at all what he said.

All countries pay for their militaries. Russia invaded Ukraine and is actively comitting genocide.

There is a difference.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by throw123xz »

adhamsalama wrote: post #200
throw123xz wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people do avoid US companies for the reasons you've mentioned. People tend to care more about what they are familiar with. Someone in Zimbabwe probably cares more about the war in Sudan and avoids dealing with the countries involved than with the Russian invasion of Ukraine and use Russian products. Same with someone in Iran, they probably care more about Syria and Palestine, and avoid Israeli products while usi…

But someone in Zimbabwe would care if their country commits a genocide. But most Americans don't when their country does it.

We don't even have to leave the African continent do understand that people being okay with and performing genocides, waging war, etc, isn't an exclusive American trait.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by VHRanger »

hootz wrote: post #158
karaterobot wrote: post #108

Search engines are getting squeezed out by AI for me. Kagi's search results are less polluted by SEO trash than Google, but there's still a non-zero amount of it. When I try to answer a question using Kagi (or any search engine these days) I end up feeling frustrated: there's so much information, and none of it is useful. On the other hand, ChatGPT filters all SEO spam out for me, and typically does a decent job of a…

Kagi has an optional integrated search AI which you can activate by adding a question mark at the end of your query.

You can also use !ai at the end to redirect the query.

It'll redirect the query to kagi.com/assistant and use your default model or assistant for the search.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by VHRanger »

karaterobot wrote: post #108

Search engines are getting squeezed out by AI for me. Kagi's search results are less polluted by SEO trash than Google, but there's still a non-zero amount of it. When I try to answer a question using Kagi (or any search engine these days) I end up feeling frustrated: there's so much information, and none of it is useful. On the other hand, ChatGPT filters all SEO spam out for me, and typically does a decent job of a…

You can also use !ai at the end to redirect the query.

It'll redirect the query to kagi.com/assistant and use your default model or assistant for the search.

If you're paying for kagi, you can use ChatGPT or gpt 4.1 mini -- OpenAI uses bing as a backend so it'll be a strict improvement for you

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by bicepjai »

margalabargala wrote: post #78
unclad5968 wrote: post #50

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Do you personally sanction all countries that commit atrocities or is it specific to Russia? I don't care what you do or don't support with your money, but I'm genuinely curious about the mindset.

It is not possible for any one person to maintain 100% awareness of the entire planet, nor is it feasible for most people to simply live in the woods as a hunter-gatherer and take nothing from others who might do wrong elsewhere. Once we accept that each of us is a human rather than a morally perfect literal supernatural angel, each of us must decide: If we cannot sanction all wrongdoers, does that mean we sanction n…

This is a well thought out response that I can connect to. I support the 3 metrics you laid out.
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