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Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by Aeglaecia »

stanislavb wrote: post #17

I'd say - everybody has a personality which is not who they really are. The personality is "simply" the response and defence mehanism of the ego of trauma inflicted during the early formatory years during childhood. It's really interesting what an automatic-machine a person is. Unaware that he is acting machanically in most cases. Source - the Enneagram and Gurdjieff.

i disagree , while most people do exist in a provisional life (to the uninitiated please search this term of mr. jung's) , this does not discount the possibility of evolving further

Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by rahimnathwani »

Aurornis wrote: post #190
rahimnathwani wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it were in DSM-5-*, would that mean it's a standalone disorder? I haven't read much psychology, but this article suggests a lot of psychological diagnoses are just labels for symptoms: https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2025/02/06/the-mind-in-the-whe... Imagine that your car breaks down and you bring it to a mechanic and he tells you, “Oh, your car has a case of broken-downness.” You’d know right away: this guy ha…

FYI: SlimeMoldTimeMold has been heavily debunked across multiple topics. It was popular for a while in rationalist communities for the multi-part series claiming lithium in the water supply caused obesity, until everyone realized the author has a serious habit of misrepresenting sources, claiming citations say things they don’t, and omitting contradictory evidence.

Thanks.

Any idea whether or not their characterization of psychological diagnoses is mostly correct?

Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by nlawalker »

Aurornis wrote: post #189
Walf wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So because those people are ignorant of the nomenclature, they must not really experience those issues? I never asserted that it was a standalone condition, in fact I attributed it as related to undiagnosed conditions that do have names.

Applying formal-sounding nomenclature does not transform accountability like you’re suggesting. Also, being able to Google a TikTok-famous phrase and get hits from SEO-targeted blog posts like this doesn’t really make it official nomenclature. They’re just trying to capture traffic with trending keywords. This is a very obvious SEO article. Saying “I have a problem with being on time” and “I have time blindness” are…

The intersection of this with employment, specifically, seems hairy to me.

Is time blindness a disability that requires accommodation? To what extent, and who decides? If not, what makes it different from other disabilities that do get accommodation or some kind of protected status?

(These are meant to be rhetorical questions, but I’m sure someone has a direct answer, so I’d be interested in that too, because I really don’t know)

Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by ycombinete »

Mtinie wrote: post #147
Loughla wrote: post #123

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I understand what you're saying, but experience has taught me that many many many people use whatever the thing is (trauma, ADHD, whatever) as an excuse to act however they want whenever they want. It becomes a crutch, or a security blanket to let them just be okay with wallowing in the negativity and externalizing every problem. There has to be a happy medium. I have some neuro issues, and yet I understand that whil…

Experience has taught me that your assertion is from a privileged position. Congratulations for being closer to the neuro-populous side of the spectrum. Your experiences can only represent your unique case.

Experience has taught me that accusing people of privilege, and being sarcastic does not make one more persuasive.

Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by NoPicklez »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #168

LOL speak for yourself- if you're American maybe. Rest of the world, not so much. I deeply resent these articles which claim to speak for everyone but irresponsibly push destructive narratives like this. Like a least have a discussion before shilling your depressing viewpoint as the truth.

Well no, I'm Australian and I agree with the post.

Also, on the same coin who are you to say the rest of the world is no different, or is.

Perhaps the better response is simply that people shouldn't draw broad conclusions, as neither I or you can do that for anyone, including on behalf of the rest of the world outside of the US.

Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by apples_oranges »

mcdeltat wrote: post #181
jazzyjackson wrote: post #154

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I'm very curious as to how you come to the conclusion that 'stress' has increased. I don't suppose it's that the world is more stressful, WWII, cold war, a thousand famines throughout history, what makes us so stressed that we can't cope in some way that we used to be able to cope?

I have wondered - but have no evidence either way - if the stress we encounter nowadays differs to stress of the past. At some point very long ago most of us were stressing about things like food, water, surviving the night. Now most of us are stressing about things like work pressure, debt, global disasters. I wonder if the nature of the stressors have changed from immediate and acute to increasingly abstract and ch…

I think you are right with chronic vs immediate stressors.

Economic anxiety could be the big one, and people don’t see the end of the tunnel.

Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by achierius »

deanCommie wrote: post #65
hresvelgr wrote: post #53

The lovable aphorisms we had for people with character quirks were largely from our original support systems. What no one is talking about is the reason therapy-talk has become so pervasive is because all those support systems: family, friends, and local communities (religious or otherwise), have all degraded so severely for most that therapy is the only option for reaching out and getting help.

except they weren't really "support systems" i mean they were, if you got lucky. If you were neurotypical; if you bought in to the local religious sect's particular flavour and embraced it wholeheartedly; if you followed the other local cults of sports fandoms; if you were lucky enough to either have family without their own trauma that didn't take it out on you OR decided to repress it in exactly the same way that t…

It worked for the large majority. It now no longer works for that large majority, and practically also does not work well for the rest. We have in this sense regressed, thanks to the social liquidation of capitalism.

Re: Nobody has a personality anymore: we are products with labels

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Post by Walf »

Aurornis wrote: post #189
Walf wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So because those people are ignorant of the nomenclature, they must not really experience those issues? I never asserted that it was a standalone condition, in fact I attributed it as related to undiagnosed conditions that do have names.

Applying formal-sounding nomenclature does not transform accountability like you’re suggesting. Also, being able to Google a TikTok-famous phrase and get hits from SEO-targeted blog posts like this doesn’t really make it official nomenclature. They’re just trying to capture traffic with trending keywords. This is a very obvious SEO article. Saying “I have a problem with being on time” and “I have time blindness” are…

You've really missed the point there, what I said was that these people who are using the term "time blindness" are not using official terms, and that ignorance does not detract from their life experience. Psychologists refer to this as executive dysfunction, which that article specifically mentioned.

I'm not sure why you're attempting to discredit it, was the Masters in Science of the author, and the review by a doctor not sufficient for you?

I never missed your point, I made no comment on people failing to hold themselves accountable for their behaviour. You certainly seem unable to comprehend that not everyone experiences time as you do.

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