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Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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This incompetence excuse puts YC in a bad spotlight too, because it makes them look like they are funding people with exact zero software development experience.

Isn't YC supposed to offer guidance and sage advice, not just be a cash machine for naive young developers?

They're also supposed to do their due diligence before investing.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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I do not know what is wrong with software engineers. This is theft (or whatever the lawyers says in the IP law) and now stating: Ooops we did not know, our bad, we keep it till we have found a replacement. Mistakes happen also in real life, but libraries is a common thing, like cars standing on a street. You do not accidently steal a car. Software Engineering is more than coding. Basic license management incl. librar…

> Basic license management incl. library vetting is part of it. This depends on whether you consider Compliance to be part of software engineering or a separate discipline. At least in most companies the compliance department is different from the software development/IT department, because the necessary skills are very different and barely transfer.

I mean it's basic human ethics, but I guess we are in an era where taking everything is fair game.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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And it has the same fake excuse as usual "Since this was our first OSS project, we didn’t realize at first." He sure discovered this new open source thing and it's very confusing. It's not like it's almost 40 years old at that point. I'll never understand people who lie like toddlers.

This incompetence excuse puts YC in a bad spotlight too, because it makes them look like they are funding people with exact zero software development experience.

Aren't VCs based on the principle of throwing money in as many directions as possible and hoping something turns out to be a unicorn?

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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> because it makes them look like they are funding people with exact zero software development experience. Being a great software developer does not make you a lawyer (not even a bad lawyer).

Forking an open source repo and claiming you built something in 4 days does not make you a great software developer either though.

> claiming you built something in 4 days

That is why when such a marketing claim comes up, the first question to ask is from which base they built the respective product in 4 days, and which kind of additional value the respective company added during this process.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Hi everyone, this is Daniel from the Pickle team. Glass is a new open source project from us that we plan to build on and improve. We built several original features for it like live summaries, real-time STT Transcript and one-click "Ask" from summary that we're very excited about. However in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache. This was incorrec…

Hiding the entire history of this incident[1] behind a force push[2] to make it seem as if credit was given and proper license was chosen from the start really displays a lack of integrity, and tells me it’s definitely malicious (which should be quite clear from zero mention of the original project to begin with, but this act reinforces that) rather an inadvertent screwup. [1] https://github.com/pickle-com/glass/comm…

A few weeks ago people on here where mad at a company (Microsoft?) for NOT force pushing the corrected credit of a source code.

You just can't win.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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And it has the same fake excuse as usual "Since this was our first OSS project, we didn’t realize at first." He sure discovered this new open source thing and it's very confusing. It's not like it's almost 40 years old at that point. I'll never understand people who lie like toddlers.

It's funny these "founders" only use this hollow excuse with open source licensing, you never see "since this was my first company, we didn't realize taxes exist"

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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post #200

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> because it makes them look like they are funding people with exact zero software development experience. Being a great software developer does not make you a lawyer (not even a bad lawyer).

You don't need to be a lawyer to understand you can't just copy others' IP without checking if you're allowed to. By your argument, I can just torrent moviez and appz because I'm not a lawyer and can't be bothered with minutae of copyright law.

> By your argument, I can just torrent movies and appz becuase I'm not a lawyer and can't be bothered with minutae of copyright law.

Indeed, there exist people who argue that in many areas law has become so complicated and unclear what is allowed or not that you cannot thus expect from ordinary citizens to obey the laws anymore - even if these citizens are willing to.

Thus politicians do have an obligation to make the laws as clear, logical and comprehensible as possible, otherwise they loose their legitimization of expecting citizens to obey them.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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post #100

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The first rule of HN moderation is that we moderate (i.e., intervene) less if a story reflects negatively on a YC company or YC itself. This principle goes right back to pg days, and was the first thing he taught dang [1]. That said, it doesn't mean we avoid moderation at all and it doesn't mean the guidelines all go out the window. Different factors influence the story's rank and visibility on the front page: upvote…

> The first rule of HN moderation is that we moderate (i.e., intervene) less if a story reflects negatively on a YC company or YC itself. Unless you have transparency on flagging and mod actions, these are just your words. And as these events keep happening, your credibility erodes.

This comment [1] from dang a couple of years ago touches on our reasons for not publishing a moderation log, and links to many more explanations over the years.

We're happy to be judged on the outcome, which, in this instance, is that the story has been on the front page for hours and everyone is able to have their say.

> And as these events keep happening, your credibility erodes.

YC has invested in thousands of companies by now and hundreds of new ones per year. That includes many founders who are young and inexperienced, and also plenty from diverse backgrounds, which, now that I've had time to dig into it, seems to apply here. Screwups are going to happen, as in every part of life; the law of large numbers guarantees it. What matters is what people do to make it right.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37137916

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