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Sam Altman Slams Meta’s AI Talent Poaching: 'Missionaries Will Beat Mercenaries'
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They have majority of the attention and market cap. They have runway. And that part is the most important thing. Others don’t have the users to grand test developments.
I'm not so sure they have runway. XAI has Elon's fortune to burn, and Spacex to fund it. Gemini has the ad and search business of Google to fund it. Meta has the ad revenue of IG+FB+WhatsApp+Messenger. Whereas OpenAI $10 billion in annual revenue, but low switching costs for both consumers and developers using their APIs. If you stay at the forefront of frontier models, you need to keep burning money like crazy, that…
They definitely have a very valuable brand name even if the switching costs are low. To many people, AI == ChatGPT
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#203OpenAI's tight spot: 1) They are far from profitability. 2) Meta is aggressively making their top talent more expensive, and outright draining it. 3) Deepseek/Baidu/etc are dramatically undercutting them. 4) Anthropic and (to a lesser extent?) Google appear to be beating them (or, charitably, matching them) on AI's best use case so far: coding. 5) Altman is becoming less like-able with every unnecessary episode of dr…
Good analysis, my counter to it is that OpenAI has one of the leading foundational models, while Meta, despite being a top paying tech company, continued to release sub par models that don't come close to the other big three. So, what happened? Is there something fundamentally wrong with the culture and/or infra at Meta? If it was just because Zuckerburg bet on the wrong horses to lead their LLM initiatives, what mak…
For one thing, all the trade secrets going from openai and anthropic to meta.
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#204Pretty telling that OpenAI only now feels like it has to reevaluate compensation for researchers while just weeks ago it spent $6.5 billion to hire Jony Ive. Maybe he can build your superintelligence for you.
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Just looked it up, looks like they bought or merged with a company he worked at or owned part of, at a valuation of 6.5 billion. Not sure about the details, e.g.like how much of that he gets
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#205That's rich. Almost as rich as Sam.
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#206I think Meta already has very deep cultural problems. If you've ever browsed teamblind.com (which I strongly recommend against as I hate that site), you'll see what the people who work at Meta are like.
What are they like? since you recommend not browsing this site?
The posts from Meta employees on teamblind are generally cynical, status/wealth-obsessed and mean.
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#207I think Meta already has very deep cultural problems. If you've ever browsed teamblind.com (which I strongly recommend against as I hate that site), you'll see what the people who work at Meta are like.
Off topic, but the existence of this teamblind.com site escaped my notice till now. Is there a particular reason to hate it (aside from it being social media)?
I hate teamblind because it makes me feel really negative about our industry.
I actually really like tech - the problems we get to work on, the ever-changing technological landscape, the smart and passionate people, etc, etc. But teamblind is just filled with cynical, wealth-obsessed and mean careerists. It's like the opposite of HN in many ways.
And if you ever wondered where the phrase "TC or GTFO" originated... it's from teamblind.
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#209Do I "poach" a stock when I offer more money for it than the last transaction value? "Poaching" employees is just price discovery by market forces. Sounds healthy to me. Meta is being the good guys for once.
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Sounds like some tariffs should be applied as as well considering there's now a trade imbalance!
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> I hope everyone here gets to have the experience of seeing HN discuss something that you're an expert in. It's eye-opening to see how confidently wrong most poasters are. Some topics (and some areas where one could be an expert in) are much more prone to this phenomenon than others. Just to give a specific example that suddenly comes to my mind: Grothendieck-style Algebraic Geometry is rather not prone to people co…
It's hard to have an informed opinion on Algebraic Geometry (requires expertise) and not many people are going to upvote and engage with you about it either. It's a lot easier to have an opinion on tech execs, current events, and tech gossip. Moreover you're much more likely to get replies, upvotes, and other engagement for posting about it. There's a reason politics and tech gossip are where most HN comments go thes…
> There's a reason politics and tech gossip are where most HN comments go these days. This is a pretty mainstream site.
HN is the digital water cooler. Rumors are a kind of social currency, in the capital sense, in that it can be leveraged and has a time horizon for value of exchange, and in the timeliness/recency biased sense, as hot gossip is a form of information that wants to be free, which in this context means it has more value when shared, and that value is tapped into by doing so.