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I hope so too, but I fear that the implementation is rushed and won't yield the positive results it could have.
That's what the EU OS project is also about! https://eu-os.eu
Does anyone remember Munich Linux project and how Microsoft eventually bribed Munich to drop it? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
As many IT people in Denmark is pointing out, it's not really about replacing Office and Windows, it's all the surrounding infrastructure that will be the main issue. Are these Linux machines going to authenticate against the Azure Active Directory, maybe just a local Active Directory, or are the IT department going to run a separate service in parallel? Are they moving away from Exchange Server... probably not, give…
It's also file compatibility.
But yes, the big thing is AD. AD has been out since 2000 and was/is the standard. If you have/had AD and Group policy you move to AAD and Intune for cloud. There is no competitor to this. Zero.
As many IT people in Denmark is pointing out, it's not really about replacing Office and Windows, it's all the surrounding infrastructure that will be the main issue. Are these Linux machines going to authenticate against the Azure Active Directory, maybe just a local Active Directory, or are the IT department going to run a separate service in parallel? Are they moving away from Exchange Server... probably not, give…
I'm currently working at a large public institution in Norway. Half the team runs Linux, and the only real constraint is using Edge for SSO. (Firefox works too - you just have to actually log in like it's 2008.) Honestly, everything else runs smoother than what my Windows-using teammates are dealing with.
So everything in the backend is still MS? Office 365, Intune, the full stack? That is the point of the comment you are rerplying to.
The "terminals" dont matter that much if the goal is to get rid of MS dependancy and they run Office 365... whats the point.
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I'm currently working at a large public institution in Norway. Half the team runs Linux, and the only real constraint is using Edge for SSO. (Firefox works too - you just have to actually log in like it's 2008.) Honestly, everything else runs smoother than what my Windows-using teammates are dealing with.
>Half the team runs Linux, and the only real constraint is using Edge for SSO. (Firefox works too - you just have to actually log in like it's 2008.) So everything in the backend is still MS? Office 365, Intune, the full stack? That is the point of the comment you are rerplying to. The "terminals" dont matter that much if the goal is to get rid of MS dependancy and they run Office 365... whats the point.
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This is a particular brand of take strikes me as lazy. In general, each type of product is going to have some core features that almost everyone needs. And then there's going to be a long tail of features that fewer and fewer users need to make use of the tool effectively. Office tools like LibreOffice and Google Sheets strike a sort of 80/20, where they can build perhaps less than half the features of the totally co…
The 80/20 rule doesn't apply here because it turns out the "20" is different for everyone. If you take away one critical piece of user or organization's workflow then it doesn't really matter that everything else still works. For LibreOffice there is still a huge functionality gap in VBA support. This is mission critical in a lot of places.
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Changing infrastructure and software packages should not fail due to a missing or bad office template. Surely this can be made from scratch to suit the gov org and current standards/legislation within one work month by any skilled consultant. There are challenges yes, an office template should not be on the top list. Maybe I'm totally wrong...
Step in the shoes of an average user. You have to create a good looking document. As usual, there is time pressure. You would have no idea where to look online for templates, let alone create it from scratch (master page, huh, what?). In powerpoint or word, just pick one template or theme and it looks slick. Even when you import a template in Impress, you will find some weird bugs, like a slide insisting that it won'…
Then any office product is horrible. I'm using emacs with markdown, and convert them to tex, pdf, blog posts automatically.
Tables look better. Images look better. Everything's looks better. And it's 10x easier to work with.
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Check https://www.onlyoffice.com/ honestly it's pretty good, open source, multiplatform and it opens everything I've thrown at it so far. I like libre in general but one too many times it just didn't play ball with some random docx documents.
It is not as open. Try building the desktop editors yourself. Some parts of the build system are not documented / not included in the repo. Moreover it is a rebranding of Russian P7 Office. The company didn't cut ties with Russia and they still sell to the military. The owner created multiple shell companies in Latvia and Singapore to obscure this. I don't think this is something that EU governments trust, unless a d…
LibreOffice is great, but not supporting multiple users simultaneously editing the same document is a serious limitation compared to proprietary solutions such as MS Office and Google Workspace. Also, replacing Windows by Linux and MS Office by LibreOffice is only the surface of the problem. What about replacing Entra (identity and access management), Intune (endpoint management), file sharing (OneDrive), email and c…
There are tools like Collabora (built on LibreOffice) that work very similar to what you would get from MS. Collabora, for example, can also be integraded with Nextcloud and Owncloud.