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Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by herbst »

90s_dev wrote: post #117
amluto wrote: post #106

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> Since I'm too stupid and/or lazy to figure out how to clean my coffee machine (the instructions said something about vinegar once in a while) Vinegar removes limescale, which may or may not be a real problem depending on your water source. To remove coffee residue, use a dilute solution, freshly prepared, of sodium percarbonate and very very hot water. You can mix ~1 tsp of sodium percarbonate with a cup or two of…

Your response just makes me more confident that I'm making the right choice by boiling coffee in a pot of water and washing it with plain dish soap afterwards.

You can just buy the commercial cleaner bottle once a year, follow whatever the bottle says and press the "clean routine" button on almost any machine.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by DennisP »

ordu wrote: post #78
DennisP wrote: post #20

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As someone who does like coffee, I can't imagine that the best coffee for people who don't like coffee is much worse coffee . Seems like really good coffee would be a much better option to try first. Everybody tastes things differently because we each have a different subset of scent receptors, but for me, it's not that instant is bland or one-dimensional, but that it actively tastes bad.

I cannot say for everyone who doesn't like coffee, but I can say for myself. I hate coffee, but instant coffee is ok for me. Maybe it is bland or one-dimensional, but it is much better than bitter+sour.

Bitter+sour sounds like bad coffee to me, too.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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browningstreet wrote: post #130
rectang wrote: post #62

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> Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Not everyone is going to like less-roasted beans. Less roasted beans have strong, distinct flavors which might be characterized as "green" or "floral" or "woodsy", and it's true that a lot of the individuality of the bean varieties is obscured by darker roasts. But I for one usually prefer the standard roasts of the mainstream vendors over the li…

Third wave coffee roasters, like Revolution or Counter Culture, always taste distinctly sour. I can't drink those at all. I personally prefer medium to dark roasts.. even when I'm drinking them black. I wish I could find the word that describes the lighter roast taste that I don't like (to me, it's the IPA of coffee) because I have yet to be able to walk into a coffee roaster and ask them, "Is your coffee ?" so I kno…

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Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by DennisP »

toast0 wrote: post #93
DennisP wrote: post #20

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As someone who does like coffee, I can't imagine that the best coffee for people who don't like coffee is much worse coffee . Seems like really good coffee would be a much better option to try first. Everybody tastes things differently because we each have a different subset of scent receptors, but for me, it's not that instant is bland or one-dimensional, but that it actively tastes bad.

I dunno. Coffee flavored beverages are objectively bad coffee, but can be appealing to coffee dislikers. I used to hate coffee and love coffee ice cream. Now I drink coffee with a lot of cream (but no sweetener), which is kind of the same idea. My pallete has matured enough for me to prefer not to have k-cups, but not much further than that.

I don't mind coffee-flavored beverages. I'm not someone with a really refined palate. I can't tell you the flavor notes in coffee and I'm hopeless with wine.

But I still really like good, black fresh-ground coffee, don't like a lot of restaurant coffees without adding cream, and can't stand instant.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by randomcarbloke »

browningstreet wrote: post #130
rectang wrote: post #62

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> Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Not everyone is going to like less-roasted beans. Less roasted beans have strong, distinct flavors which might be characterized as "green" or "floral" or "woodsy", and it's true that a lot of the individuality of the bean varieties is obscured by darker roasts. But I for one usually prefer the standard roasts of the mainstream vendors over the li…

Third wave coffee roasters, like Revolution or Counter Culture, always taste distinctly sour. I can't drink those at all. I personally prefer medium to dark roasts.. even when I'm drinking them black. I wish I could find the word that describes the lighter roast taste that I don't like (to me, it's the IPA of coffee) because I have yet to be able to walk into a coffee roaster and ask them, "Is your coffee ?" so I kno…

it's the terroir, I love light roasts but can't stand sour, stone-fruity coffees, try island coffees or south american (specifically colombian) for nutty, earthy, chocolatey flavours.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by hansvm »

phs318u wrote: post #69
90s_dev wrote: post #31

> You'll get diabetes. Have a coffee. When I was a kid, I hated even the smell of coffee so much, that tasting it could make me throw up. A few years ago, to help kick my soda habit, I forced myself to drink black coffee every single day. The first day, I could barely stomach a few sips. After a week or so, I could finish the whole cup with great difficulty. After another few weeks, I could finish it without minding.…

> It seems that if you force yourself to taste any food or drink for 40 days, you'll eventually enjoy it. Except for okra :-) When evolution makes a vegetable both prickly AND slimy, it's nature's way of saying "you really don't want to eat this".

Fun fact, the mucilage that makes okra slimy is very similar to the mucilage in the "marsh mallow" plant, originally used to make marshmallows.

Even people who "don't like okra" usually like it pickled, if you ever get the chance. It doesn't feel even the slightest bit slimy. You might also like it in gumbo, where the mucilage is intentionally used to thicken the dish but is diffuse enough that the texture isn't slimy anymore.

Other than that though, I agree, most preparations are off-putting. I never understood the appeal growing up.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by klausa »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #186
mths wrote: post #179

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I've been using my aeropress a lot lately after having it mostly collect dust for the better part of a decade. What I've found, as I've hopefully matured a bit since I got it, is that my problem with it was always more of a problem with myself; being a bit of a contrarian. The thing is just too revered, and for really no good reason. People are so damn pretentious about it with their recipes and championships. James…

>The thing is just too revered, and for really no good reason. I disagree. I think the reasons are all solid. It's (used to be) cheap, almost unbreakable, easy to use, easy to clean, easy to carry, no faffing (unless you want to be pretentious), highly tolerant on incontinences regarding grind size or brew times. There is no other coffee brewer that ticks all these boxes simultaneously, and I tried them all. The only…

I think you entirely misread the OP's point.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by jagermo »

2 things I would recommend to people in a similar position:

1) Affogato: An espresso shot poured over a nice serving of ice cream. Does not have to be much, but a good vanilla gelato with an espresso over it is heaven.

2) Try a cold brew. Simply get ground coffee that smells good, put 2 to 3 scoops in a bottle, fill with water, and let it sit in the fridge for 24+ hours. After that, run it through a filter. The resulting liquid is pretty intense and has a high caffeine concentration, but, most of the time, will not taste bitter and even offer some different flavor profiles. Even cheap ground beans can taste quite good that way. You can drink it over ice in the summer or simply add some boiling water (basically an americano).

oh, and shop around for coffee places, smaller roasters and or speciality coffee shops, they normally roast different and their coffee has a wide variety of taste. from fruity to nutty, coffee can be so much more than just a dark liquid.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by chrisdhal »

jerkstate wrote: post #39
90s_dev wrote: post #31

> You'll get diabetes. Have a coffee. When I was a kid, I hated even the smell of coffee so much, that tasting it could make me throw up. A few years ago, to help kick my soda habit, I forced myself to drink black coffee every single day. The first day, I could barely stomach a few sips. After a week or so, I could finish the whole cup with great difficulty. After another few weeks, I could finish it without minding.…

You probably want to use citric acid to clean your coffee maker, vinegar will make it taste worse imo

That's why you run 4 or so pots of plain water through it afterwards.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by chrisdhal »

90s_dev wrote: post #31

> You'll get diabetes. Have a coffee. When I was a kid, I hated even the smell of coffee so much, that tasting it could make me throw up. A few years ago, to help kick my soda habit, I forced myself to drink black coffee every single day. The first day, I could barely stomach a few sips. After a week or so, I could finish the whole cup with great difficulty. After another few weeks, I could finish it without minding.…

> Since I'm too stupid and/or lazy to figure out how to clean my coffee machine

It's literally: pour vinegar where you would put water (don't use any filter or anything). Turn on. Let it go through. Run a few pots of plain water through after to clear out the vinegar from the lines.

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