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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by viraptor »

echelon wrote: post #182
HPsquared wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isolationism is a key MAGA tenet. It's not accidental.

This is actually surprisingly a pro-union move by Trump. If you aren't aware, they've shipped most IATSE jobs to Serbia since 2023. They used to shoot most Disney and Netflix shows in LA and Atlanta. Now they're happening in Eastern Europe. They fly the cast out and film with crews that don't have labor laws or unions and that are an order of magnitude cheaper. IATSE members have been forced to leave the industry, se…

Yet the budgets keep going up and the "all movies make a loss" accounting continues. What are the chances the consumer will see any savings or the crew will see any raises?

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Post by dagw »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #160
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

Growing up in the 70s and 80s in Germany, I've been brainwashed by US movies and sitcoms, 90% of the things I've watched was from the US - Magnum P.I, Simon & Simon, The Fall Guy, Kojak, A-Team, Golden Girls, Mary Taylor Moore, Lou Grant, MacGyver, Knight Rider, Night Court, Family Ties, Miami Vice, The Wonder Years, Facts of Life, Love Boat, and on and on and on. I know the US better than many parts of Germany.

I know the US better than many parts of Germany

I read an article years ago from a lawyer (might have been a judge) complaining that, thanks to US TV and movies, people in Sweden know more about how the US justice system works than the Swedish system. Far too many people just fall back on their US TV knowledge of how they think courts work and that they keep having to explain to the people that, no that's not how things works in Sweden.

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Post by jparishy »

nobunaga wrote: post #186
jparishy wrote: post #58

The filmmaking industry is constantly flying productions all over the world to avoid paying US labor. Waste of time, money, energy. And the saved money isn't given back to the people making the movie, the unions are still constantly fighting with the industry for basic asks. I don't see a problem here, this is what tariffs are actually for. Broken clock is right twice a day yada yada eta: one can not like the man and…

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i don't ask ppl who they voted for because i've learned it's not a good signal on whether they are nice or a good person. life is complicated. i didn't vote for trump though, so at least this village idiot has a clean conscience and just isn't interested in reliving 2017

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Post by HelloNurse »

DeusExMachina wrote: post #156
jaimebuelta wrote: post #94

Not sure I follow. Biggest real action movie last year was “Deadpool & Wolverine”, a Disney movie which was shot in UK and made a bit over 50% of its revenue overseas[1]. Its main stars were Canadian and Australian. Does this mean that you’ll have to pay double to go watch it to cinemas in the US? Will that make Disney to focus on the international market? [1] https://the-numbers.com/movie/Deadpool-and-Wolverine-(202…

Since it's about movies produced overseas, I don't think the nationality of the actors or the overseas revenue counts. But it probaby counts that it was shot in the UK. The reason why Disney does that is because they get tax breaks from the UK government, which I think it's what Trump is referring to.

There will be exceptions and loopholes for friends, like e.g. for Tesla cars.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

vanjajaja1 wrote: post #196
peder wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This tariff isn't an attack on Hollywood. This helps actors and staff in the Hollywood area.

its very likely to cause reciprocal tariffs though, and exports of Hollywood way out weigh the imports of foreign films

There already are tarrifs and bans against Hollywood in many countries.

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Post by alistairSH »

Will this simply drive studios to produce with an even heavier eye towards the Chinese market?

There’s a nugget of truth to Hollywood moving production overseas, but I’m not convinced a massive tariff will have the effect Trump wants. Just like all his other economic fuckery.

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

faku812 wrote: post #150
jasonjayr wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But isn't this the "free market" at play? Media with so-called "leftist" themes tend to do well commercially than "rightist" themes, so Hollywood just follows the money?

Snow White is evidence the money is not what they follow.

I would say it’s exactly what a risk-averse money-following committee would do. Regurgitate remakes of previously successful things to milk the cow until it’s powder dry.

Whether this is a successful strategy is debatable.

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Post by bilekas »

iszomer wrote: post #49
littlestymaar wrote: post #15

Not only are the US the biggest film exporter in the world by far, with Hollywood being a pillar of American soft power, but you can't even apply “tariff” to movies as it is IP, not physical goods (on which tariffs apply). Sure you can imagine schemes to tax these anyway, but that's a huge can of worms to open for the US, are they are net exporters of everything IP related. The EU has been struggling with base evasio…

What about the context of IP content piracy between countries?

Can you give any examples of IP piracy (outside of China) because IP in the US doesn't automatically transfer outside the US, they need to be registered in other regions also..
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