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The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I wish my cat was around in the phone camera and instagram days, he would have cleaned up online.

Never too late you know... assuming you still have your catto.

Sadly passed as a dignified old cat many, many years ago now.

The digital camera was barely a thing back then let alone a camera in your pocket 24 hours a day! Nevertheless, lots of happy memories captured in the only way that really matters - in person without a screen.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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post #139

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After socialization comes drunk driving which alone kills a quarter million people annually.

It's deeply fascinating to many europeans living in cities that one would need to drive to go to a bar. My closest bar is 100 meters away. If I'm willing to walk 20 minutes, the radius can probably hit around 100 different ones.

I’m European and live in a city. There are still plenty of drunk driving fatalities here.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I'm certainly an anomaly but since to me the downsides of social media have always been quite prominent and seemed to outweigh the benefits by a margin, I never jumped on the social media train. But I've got to say, it's getting harder and harder to keep that up. As our kids get older especially, almost all of their social activities are somehow tied to social media one way or the other: no matter what they're joinin…

I feel your point but I don't think WhatsApp counts as social media. It's a group messaging app, same as Facebook Messenger, Signal, etc. Those messaging apps don't have the typical social media downsides -- you don't need to maintain a profile, there's no doom scrolling, etc.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I'm certainly an anomaly but since to me the downsides of social media have always been quite prominent and seemed to outweigh the benefits by a margin, I never jumped on the social media train. But I've got to say, it's getting harder and harder to keep that up. As our kids get older especially, almost all of their social activities are somehow tied to social media one way or the other: no matter what they're joinin…

I'd still not class WhatsApp as a social media platform as your story implies. It is a communication tool for the most part with some social features slowly being baked in. The downsides you're speaking of are far more applicable to Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and similar, more than WhatsApp, Telegram, or Discord. I don't know where you're based, but in general these days at least one "chat app" of some kind is the…

I’m with the GP on this on. WhatsApp should absolutely be covered under the same umbrella here due to it being owned by Meta, who have a long history of breaking promises regarding privacy.

And since a lot of people do keep in contact via WhatsApp group chats, it’s hard to ignore the social implications of WhatsApp too. It’s as much a social platform as the others albeit with a different broadcast model.

As a parent, I have to monitor my child’s WhatsApp groups to check they’re safe, just like I would their YouTube and Instagram feeds. And I have to check they’re also being safe with the stuff that they share on WhatsApp, just like you would on any other social network.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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Before its fall, I had over 700 followers on Twitter. I could post any random thought and within minutes be having an interesting conversation with some rando about it. For example I pondered why phone manufacturers didn't use a p2p protocol for distributing updates and had an enlightening conversation with a person who worked for a major telco chiming in as to why that would be problematic for their infrastructure.…

My sense is that Twitter’s fall was an opportunity for a lot of people to just drop out. I know for me it’s become a very occasional thing and neither Bluesky nor Mastodon ever achieved critical mass. As far as I’m concerned the format is largely done. Never engaged with the political stuff.

And you all made place for guys like me; I don’t get booed away by 90% of the users anymore when engaging in discussion, more often I get an actual discussion out of it. Before that it was just a highly toxic “noo my opinion is the right one and I’m rigid on that and you’re an idiot” ambience.

Funny how things shift like that. Also never engaged with political stuff.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I believe many of the problems in our current social media landscape could be solved by eliminating the "feed" and instead displaying posts, updates, and pictures from friends, family, and those we know in real life. This approach might conflict with the profit models of big tech social media and could go against what most people have become accustomed to. Personally, I would love a smaller social network where I can…

Whatsapp stories

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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post #182

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I think the problem are not group chats, but algorithms optimizing for engagement, and therefore for outrage. Think of the facebook feed.

The OP doesn't seem to make a difference between social media for consuming content that the "algorithm" crams down your throat and simple group chats that are usually closed and invite only. Tbh I have a feeling it's the kids' fault. They call everything social media now. No separate names for FB and WhatsApp even though they do totally different things.

> I have a feeling it’s the kids’ fault.

Look at how broad the definition on Wikipedia is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media

I don’t think that’s the kids fault.

Also, from that Wikipedia article:

> Depending on interpretation, other popular platforms that are sometimes referred to as social media services include YouTube, Letterboxd, QQ, Quora, Telegram, WhatsApp, Signal, LINE, Snapchat, Viber, Reddit, Discord, and TikTok.

The broad interpretation that includes Reddit would also categorise HN as social media which I think is fair.

I think the problem actually is the adults that are not being specific about which problems they want to stop when they broadly say that social media is bad.

Like you say, the problem is specifically things like algorithms that are tuned for engagement, which results in all kinds of negative effects.

That being said even this is not specific enough. HN although different is also run on an algorithm that is meant to surface the most interesting things. The site rules on HN avoid some of the bad effects, but it’s still possible to be negatively impacted in other ways like checking HN too often and too long instead of doing other things.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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Because twitter has been gutted, its history the information sector equivallent of vulture capitalism. Take platform, gut its credibility and audience for some end goal (e.g. buying an election, redefining the truth in the minds of many) and leave a smouldering corpse behind. Twitter is dead, and its grave is marked with nothing more than an X.

All the interesting conversations, all the aha moments are now gone and buried behind the walled garden Once in a while we’ll see screenshots of these insightful tweets but they’ll be lost forever, like tears in the rain.

I have the complete opposite experience. I now get the aha moments I got from reddit before its private api downfall. I get actual discussions. There’s an equal split between opinions.

I think the difference here is that you were already “in” it, and it changed. I wasn’t “in” it because I hated the vibe and fakeness and just denying of my experience, but now I get the opportunity to join in a “resetting” environment. It’s refreshing and just way more real.

I blocked a few political accounts at the start and now I don’t see that at all btw

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