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Tailscale has raised $160M

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Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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When they raised the 100M three years ago, I'm pretty sure they said they didn't need it and were saving it for a rainy day (or words to that effect), always seemed very odd at the time. Two q's for anyone who cares to speculate: have they burnt the original investment already? And if not, why would they need more funding? AFAICS there's no real competition in the market place for their product today, the only thing…

You can't raise VC money and save it for a rainy day. If VCs wanted their money in a bank they'd just put it in a bank. If you raise $100M you have to put $100M to work or you'll hear constant shit from your board over it. If they raised $160M they're going to spend $160M on something. My guess would be a lot of enterprise features and product integrations.

Thank you. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to write “we don’t need the money but are saving for a rainy day” CEO talking points and press releases for companies that were < 90 days from not being able to make payroll.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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It's super useful to potential hires about the kind of team you're building. Especially if there's some kind of niche you're in (product, tech, region, whatever). There are people who I would climb mountains to work with, and others within a niche whose very presence in a company is enough to steer me away. Another signal for me is the fraction of xooglers in the engineering team.

> Another signal for me is the fraction of xooglers in the engineering team. In which direction?

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Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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How is Tailscale going to achieve at least $1B in annual revenue? That’s the kind of promise that would have to be made to investors in order to raise funding of this magnitude.

Become the provider of choice for enterprise IT networks or get bought by Azure?

My prediction is that they'll be bought by Cisco.

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HR, marketing, sales, management, office space, servers, licenses, insurance, etc. It seems on the high end, but not too unrealistic.

It’s wildly and hugely unrealistic. The rule of thumb that employees actually cost a business roughly twice their salary is based on two things: 1. Retention. Hiring costs are “huge”, and so if you have a higher or lower average retention, may make up a disproportionate cost compared to salary. Ramp up time and institutional knowledge loss is no joke either. 2. A spread of average wages. 500k is not average, and a hu…

Non-salary cost such as payroll taxes, benefits, workers comp, training, equipment, space add another 25-50% typically.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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This is just wrong. What exactly do think companies are spending 500k on per engineer beyond the TC package?

HR, marketing, sales, management, office space, servers, licenses, insurance, etc. It seems on the high end, but not too unrealistic.

US Health Insurance is stupid expensive as well.

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I'd be surprised if the average package for SWE is $1M/year (fully loaded).

Generally package is around half of what company spends per extra engineer. And $500k average for a tech heavy product company doesn't sound too far off.

Funny enough, you could double that to 70 engineers and that's still a TINY amount of engineers.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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HR, marketing, sales, management, office space, servers, licenses, insurance, etc. It seems on the high end, but not too unrealistic.

US Health Insurance is stupid expensive as well.

It's really not at scale. It's on the order of 500$ a month per dev for "gold" level care for a company of 50 people. I'm sure it's less the larger you get.
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