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Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by borntoolate » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 10:59 AM UTC

csomar wrote: post #185

iammjm wrote: post #118

Europeans were perfectly happy to buy American tech und military exports, thus earning U.S. money and making EU technologically and politically dependent from the U.S. - it really was perfect for the U.S. But the US decided that it was actually a BAD DEAL and they wanted to extort even more money and dependence from EU. So now EU is investing in their own tech and military, thus reducing the amount of money US is get…

> hus forcing EU to invest in their own tech & military, thus becoming a competitor to the US products. Not sure how you made the jump here. EU is signalling increased military spending but there isn't really much talk about tech (beyond reddit-like enthusiasm which leads nowhere); which is funny because the top referrals for this site are .. american companies themselves. That being said, increased spending doesn't…

A bunch of markets trying to recreate products is going to eventually work out for some of them on the same basis that disruptive startups that just brought things into freemium succeeded.. Many things would benefit from a rewrite and succeed to capture a larger market at a lower cost than where they ended up over the years.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by bakuninsbart » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:00 AM UTC

apexalpha wrote: post #45

At my (enterprise) job there has been a noticable shift in attitude. We've just decided to use Mistral for OCR, even though everything we currently use is embedded in Azure / IntelDocs or something. Usually any push for EU products would be dismissed because of the initial friction compared to SV products. This seems to have shifted significantly all the way to the top. Everyone seems on board to just accept more fri…

I think STACKIT is worth watching. They are owned by Schwarz Group, the largest european retailer, and seem to be on a significant growth path with major investment and commitment from the parent company.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by flohofwoe » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:01 AM UTC

briandear wrote: post #183

Yeul wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to me America is a pretty shitty country to live in if you're not rich so I am not too mad that they protest vote for Trump. Ofcourse in Europe we learned that socialism improves the lives of the proletariat not national socialism.

Here’s a counterpoint: https://fee.org/articles/the-poorest-20-of-americans-are-ric...

This doesn't quite match the rhetoric of the current US government though, does it?

Listening to them one could think the US is on the brink of collapse unless some 'strong leader' steps in and 'makes America great again'.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by pjc50 » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:01 AM UTC

graemep wrote: post #169

Teever wrote: post #143

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You misunderstand. While America is internally divided between rural and urban, or red and blue, or Woke and MAGA, the rest of the world is becoming united in seeing it all as just those damn Americans, and a growing threat. The world at large has stopped caring about the petty squabbling that goes on in America, the boorishness and the melodrama. America is the house down the street that always has shouting and scre…

I do not agree. The same division is spreading throughout the west, if not the world. From the very woke education system in the US to the electoral success of the AfD in Germany we seem to be following the US. Woke has not spread into Asia, but nationalism and racism were there already.

Trying to parse a comment where someone implies that nationalism and racism are bad but also that ""woke"" (diluted into meaninglessness by over use) is .. also bad?

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by npteljes » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:01 AM UTC

sznio wrote: post #128

JdeBP wrote: post #116

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In addition to the others elsethread, there's also Nebula; which goes for being creator-owned, not suppressive of minority content (which has seen it banned by LG as a consequence), and subscription model rather than advertisement model. * https://nebula.tv/faq

>banned by LG LG? you mean the tv company?

Yes. They run their own OS and app store, Nebula had an app there, and this ban relates to that.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by tossandthrow » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:03 AM UTC

deadlydose wrote: post #184

tossandthrow wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The down votes are due to the persons inappropriate snarkiness and complete lack of awareness. The current trade war is initiated by the US, why it is interesting how EU consumers react to that. This is akin to me hitting you in the face, then you hitting me back - and then I could ponder how you would feel about being hit in the face and how that could teach you a lesson - well, I just saw what happens when I hit yo…

> initiated by the US While I don't approve, didn't the EU charge the US tariffs that were twice as high as what the US charged the EU?

I am not aware of such. My intuition is that it was relatively balanced (taking services into account, where the US is big due to Google, MS, and friends).

But I stand corrected if there are some good sources.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by gherkinnn » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:03 AM UTC

flowerlad wrote: post #126

iammjm wrote: post #118

Europeans were perfectly happy to buy American tech und military exports, thus earning U.S. money and making EU technologically and politically dependent from the U.S. - it really was perfect for the U.S. But the US decided that it was actually a BAD DEAL and they wanted to extort even more money and dependence from EU. So now EU is investing in their own tech and military, thus reducing the amount of money US is get…

> Your boy trump did do deliver, is the US now GREAT enough for you yet? Not our boy. Trump was elected by uneducated farmers, not by HN crowd. Almost 78% of farmers endorsed his most recent presidential run. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-farmers-voted-trump-feeling-210...

> not by HN crowd

Maybe not the HN crowd (though that is debatable, there is no homogenous group here) but a seizable amount of the SV rulers have endorsed him.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by pjc50 » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:04 AM UTC

bratwurst3000 wrote: post #111

brettermeier wrote: post #92

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But in big supermarket chains you overwhelmingly find Coca Cola or the cheap house brand of the chain, at least when it is about big bottles or sixpacks. Sure, supermarkets like Edeka may also have alternatives like Afri Cola or what those are called, but big masses are Coca Cola.

yes but coca cola lost in the western market. they sell mostly in the poorer countries. dont forget its cheap as shit water with sugar. The premium feeling comes because of marketing

No it's still absolutely dominant in the western market - partly because they own a whole load of other brands, and they have absolutely unbeatable distribution. There's a few countries where Pepsi is more dominant. But the only place where a non-Coke/Pepsi soft drink is dominant is Scotland (AG Barr's Irn-Bru and other drinks). I think they even bought out the last other holdout (Peru's Inca-Cola)

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by Macha » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:04 AM UTC

LightBug1 wrote: post #132

flowerlad wrote: post #126

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> Your boy trump did do deliver, is the US now GREAT enough for you yet? Not our boy. Trump was elected by uneducated farmers, not by HN crowd. Almost 78% of farmers endorsed his most recent presidential run. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-farmers-voted-trump-feeling-210...

I always say ... there are obviously many, many great people in the USA. You're likely one of them. But your democracy has spoken now. The first time can be waived off as an aberration. The second time you have to own it. Now, either you're commenting reactively on HN about it, or you're doing something about it and not taking it personally.

Not only that but the "system" has failed to stop his actions, even those it has branded illegal. If the system is deciding that presidents are kings, then America is only as reliable to the rest of us as those it elects as president.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by pandemic_region » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 11:05 AM UTC

deadlydose wrote: post #184

tossandthrow wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The down votes are due to the persons inappropriate snarkiness and complete lack of awareness. The current trade war is initiated by the US, why it is interesting how EU consumers react to that. This is akin to me hitting you in the face, then you hitting me back - and then I could ponder how you would feel about being hit in the face and how that could teach you a lesson - well, I just saw what happens when I hit yo…

> initiated by the US While I don't approve, didn't the EU charge the US tariffs that were twice as high as what the US charged the EU?

> While I don't approve, didn't the EU charge the US tariffs that were twice as high as what the US charged the EU?

I'm afraid i'll need the exact sections of the trade agreement document that stipulates these tariffs so that I can compare myself. Otherwise this is hearsay for me.