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Post by TheEnbyperor »

briandear wrote: post #127
throwawayk7h wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a threat to transgender travellers; I know many in the tech industry. The U.S. is now denying entry visas to transgender travellers as well.

Who was denied a visa for being trans? Citation needed. Were they denied because they were trans, or were they denied for another reason but happened to be trans.

The current advice from the German government to me (a trans woman) is that I am ineligible to enter the US and will be detained at the border for presenting 'fraudulently'.

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Post by clarionbell »

thomasfedb wrote: post #164
tossandthrow wrote: post #30

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Regardless of the political situation, the EU is probably a more friendly environment for a standards body taking their stance in interoperability into account.

Singapore and Australia might also be on the list.

Unless you make a mistake of bringing cannabis.

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Post by josephg »

billfruit wrote: post #173
vanviegen wrote: post #137

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For many travellers it would be hard to find a flight plan without a stop in the US though.

And since many US airports do not have facilities for 'sterile transfers', people will require a US C1 Transit Visa to travel connecting through US.

Are they hard to get? I’d expect transferring through the US to be significantly easier than travelling into the US for a conference.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by andsoitis »

rhaps0dy wrote: post #4
PLMUV9A4UP27D wrote: post #3

At my company we make a niche software used by companies globally. Our plan was to arrange a conference in the US for our clients in North/Cental America. Considering the state of the US, we will probably cancel it, as we don't expect our Mexican and Canadian clients to feel comfortable at all. Neither do we at the head office in Europe. We will instead host it in Europe most likely.

You could host it in Mexico or Canada, they're pretty nice!

The Canadian government has this travel advisory for Mexico: https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/mexico

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Post by Aeolun »

curiousgal wrote: post #130
purplezooey wrote: post #36

I have been going to IETFs on and off for 20 years. As if the past few months were not nauseating enough in the US, I never thought I would see my own country on a page like this, and described in this way, and I feel even more deeply saddened, ashamed and horrified.

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Sure, by their enemies. Not by their allies.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by Nursie »

curiousgal wrote: post #130
purplezooey wrote: post #36

I have been going to IETFs on and off for 20 years. As if the past few months were not nauseating enough in the US, I never thought I would see my own country on a page like this, and described in this way, and I feel even more deeply saddened, ashamed and horrified.

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I don't want to downplay your feelings there, but under Trump 2.0 it has become clearer to those of us in allied nations that things are not as they were, and that even long-term friends can now be insulted and thrown under the bus. I think there is a qualitative change here.

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Post by Parae »

ghosty141 wrote: post #186
onli wrote: post #135

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This is a 20 year old article and no we don't have "nazis kill foreigners with some regularity". Yes hate-crime happens, but you make it sound like an active war zone where you have to be afraid of your life if you are "foreign" looking. I'd wager for tourists it's very safe in Germany.

Well, if you're Palestinian, Germany can be really harsh and I won't bet on your safety..
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