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Claude can now search the web

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Re: Claude can now search the web

#201
I really want these to be able to find and even redisplay images. "Search all the hotels within 5 miles of this address and show me detailed pictures of the rooms and restrooms"

Hotels would much rather show you the outside, the lobby, and a conference room, so finding what the actual living space will look like is often surprisingly difficult.

Re: Claude can now search the web

#202

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The longer I've been in the workforce, the more I realize most humans actually kind of suck at their jobs. LLMs being more human like is the opposite of what I want.

That could very well be because the jobs are effectively useless. By no means does that mean the people are, nor is what the income allows them to do. But most jobs sure do seem pointless.

It's kinda like online games. Most people who play a game are not too great at it, a large subset is pretty good, and then it's smaller and smaller groups as the ability increases.

At the top you get the people who are true pros, they write the books, the guides, they solve the hardest problems, and everyone looks up to them. But spin the wheel and get a random SWE to do some work? It's not gonna be far off from an random 1v1 lobby.

Re: Claude can now search the web

#204

Search the web is apparently using SERP. It’s just breaks my head. We’ve build LLMs that can process millions of pages at a time. But what we give them is a search engine that is optimized for humans. It’s like giving a humanoid robot access to a keyboard with a mouse to chat with another humanoid robot. Disclaimer: I might be biased as we’re kind of building the fact search engine for LLMs.

No LLM can process millions of web pages. Maybe you're thinking of something else?

Re: Claude can now search the web

#205

Search the web is apparently using SERP. It’s just breaks my head. We’ve build LLMs that can process millions of pages at a time. But what we give them is a search engine that is optimized for humans. It’s like giving a humanoid robot access to a keyboard with a mouse to chat with another humanoid robot. Disclaimer: I might be biased as we’re kind of building the fact search engine for LLMs.

This is a problem I think about often. I’d be curious to know what kind of things you’ve learned / accomplished in that problem space so far.

Re: Claude can now search the web

#206

It says a lot about their product vision and intended market that the example query is typescript migration question. Do they not care about typical search users? Only developers?

Do users pay for LLMs? I haven't seen much concrete data indicating that they do. I don't think the casual utility gains of LLMs have gotten average people so much value that they're paying $20/mo+ for it. Certainly not for search in the age of [doom] scrolling. I would guess that Anthropic wants developers talking about how good Claude is in their company Slack channels. That's the smart thing to do.

Have you actually done any kind of study on the utility the 'average user' has received, or is this just guessing?

Re: Claude can now search the web

#207

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Well first Zojirushi is unnecessarily expensive and difficult to clean. Only if you need its fancy options and like multiple varieties of rice would I recommend it. Reddit is no panacea to spam, these days. But bonappetit.com is exactly an example of affiliate link spam. Even their budget option is awful.

Zojirushi being difficult to clean is kind of a wild take, unless most of their other rice makers are a wild departure from mine.

Yeah, never had any trouble cleaning any of my Zojirushi equipment.

Re: Claude can now search the web

#209
post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

I just tried Claude’s web search. It works pretty well.

I’m not sure if Claude does any reranking (see Cohere Reranker) where it reorders the top n results or just relies on Google’s ranking.

But a web search that does re-ranking should reduce the amount of blogspam or incomplete answers. Web search isn’t inherently a lost cause.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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post #147

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"what rice cooker should I buy" returns a pretty in depth article on bonappetit.com and reddit as the top results, both recommending Zojirushi

Well first Zojirushi is unnecessarily expensive and difficult to clean. Only if you need its fancy options and like multiple varieties of rice would I recommend it. Reddit is no panacea to spam, these days. But bonappetit.com is exactly an example of affiliate link spam. Even their budget option is awful.

What kind of answer are you expecting to get? Zojirushi is the answer you're going to get on the internet if you ask "what rice cooker should I buy" with no other qualifications because it's pretty universally agreed upon that it's the highest quality product.
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