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Only disagree with the last part of your footnote. YouTube was acquired with an underpants gnomes' business model: spend $$$$ on network traffic; ????; profit! The "key advantage" that enabled YouTube was dirt-cheap global networking. And I think that is the thread that ties together all of Google's products. They are the protobuf moving company, first and foremost. Even on AI one of their key advantages is the abili…
What are you referring to with this part? > they have blogged about their cutting-edge protobuf tsunami capabilities. Not sure if you recall the blog post url or title, but I'm curious to read more.
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Re: Gemini Robotics
#202Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…
They faked a lot of the showcases in the last years and their public offerings are just weird. Ever heard of https://labs.google/fx/tools/image-fx/ or https://labs.google/fx/tools/video-fx ? Because these sites are the consumer facing video and image model UIs and literally no normal person knows.
> VideoFX isn't available in your country yet.
That's why nobody knows about it.
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#203Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…
Google is an Engineering company. What they're really bad at, in my opinion, is productizing their technology.
Google Cloud is decent, again in my opinion, because they can more or less copy the product vision from AWS and focus on the technical excellence.
When were you last excited to use a Google product or service?
Part of the problem is also their internal incentives that lead to lot's of products being retired waay too soon, leaving behind a lot of users and hurting their reputation a lot.
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Google is very much suffering from the classic Innovator's Dilemma [1]; a side effect of being too focused on stock price and not long term planning. A better management with long term thinking would utilize Google's enormous base of talented engineers far better. [1] https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=46
Or we need to break it up. The ai search team should not be afraid of killing the traditional search engine. Many of the decisions companies make are to ensure the cow they are currently milking very efficiently does not die. This is bad for the rest of us, specially if they place barriers to innovation.
You couldn't break up the AI search engine and the traditional search engine. They're basically one and the same. The AI search engine relies on the index. The index uses AI in various places. The "traditional" side has long used AI for query understanding, ranking, and fact extraction.
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For the most part that's been on known objects, these are objects it has not seen.
Not specifically trained on but most likely the Vision models have seen it. Vision models like Gemini flash/pro are already good at vision tasks on phones[1] - like clicking on UI elements and scrolling to find stuff etc. The planning of what steps to perform is also quite good with Pro model (slightly worse than GPT 4o in my opinion) 1. A framework to control your phone using Gemini - https://github.com/BandarLabs/c…
That's a really cool framework you've linked.
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#206I read too much scifi, and almost none of it has updated on the current state of AI. For example spaceships swarming with low skill level crew members that swab the decks and replace air filters. Or depending on a single engineer to be the only one with the crucial knowledge to save the ship in an emergency. If scifi authors aren't keeping up it's hard to expect the rest of us to. But the macro and micro economic cha…
> Can anyone recommend scifi that makes plausible projections around this tech?
Unironically, Wall-E. Humans leave earth behind on a ship where everything is automated.
Re: Gemini Robotics
#207I'd like to see more about what the Gemini system actually tells the robot. Eventually, it comes down to motor commands. It's not clear how they get there.
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#208Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…
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>Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : [reasons] The only thing you left out of this analysis is their valuation. The market values Google at $2.05T (just over $2,000,000,000,000) which is 21 times their earnings (net profit). They are valued at $250 per person on Earth while selling, annually, $43.75 per person on Earth (sales) of which $12 per person is their profit. How…
$12 in gold this year and $12 * (1+x) next year != $12 flat every single year
While keeping in mind that x might be a negative number.
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Or we need to break it up. The ai search team should not be afraid of killing the traditional search engine. Many of the decisions companies make are to ensure the cow they are currently milking very efficiently does not die. This is bad for the rest of us, specially if they place barriers to innovation.
You couldn't break up the AI search engine and the traditional search engine. They're basically one and the same. The AI search engine relies on the index. The index uses AI in various places. The "traditional" side has long used AI for query understanding, ranking, and fact extraction.
Legislators don’t (and should not) care about your implementation. The old company will be banned from using ai for their search for x years the new company will get employees and assets including source code to startup the new entity.