This is so cringe, i am getting motivated to only use dumb devices.
I no longer can trust that someone is looking at my TV data, Oven data, thermostat data, etc and tweeting about it.
I found a backdoor into my bed
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Re: I found a backdoor into my bed
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
In addition to everything else, also love how a bed with the express purpose to increase sleep quality requires you to open your phone every time you want to adjust a setting.
> In addition to everything else, also love how a bed with the express purpose to increase sleep quality requires you to open your phone every time you want to adjust a setting. Don't worry, they'll repeat over and over how their product was thoughtfully designed with exquisite craftsmanship by the re-animated corpse of Johnny Ive [1] until people believe it's true. [1] I know he's not dead. Also... > ... Essentially…
I mean this comment is slightly disconcerting to next generation of brilliant hackers sleeping on this bed and dreaming big of a Cloud controlled Toilet Paper Dispenser, Effececy®. It will always give right amount of paper based of amount and moisture content of just delivered product.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
How in the world does this necessitate a subscription? All of these things can work without centralization, setup once, and contained entirely within the home.
> How in the world does this necessitate a subscription? I can only speculate. But, there is demand to improve sleep quality. The provider wants to charge a monthly fee for that. The market simply puts buys and sellers together. People making business decisions will stick with Econ 101--charge what the market will bare, and why shouldn't they?
>charge what they market will bare
They want you to sleep without any clothing?
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#204My wife uses a Bedjet which has both a remote and app. Thankfully it works without an active Internet connection. It uses a bag-like sheet that it blows air into, to adjust temperature. For women suffering* through menopause, being able to adjust around hot/cold flushes is sanity-preserving! * Some women don't suffer much during perimenopause or menopause, but it's a process that seriously fucks with one's hormones.…
My friend Sara had a rare form of breast cancer at 34. Thankfully she survived, but to improve her odds of staying alive she's been essentially put into permanent menopause for the next decade. Constant hot flashes.
Is the Bedjet really that good? Would your wife recommend it without reservations? Are there any other product that have made a difference for her?
Apologies if that's intrusive but improving Sara's sleep would be life-changing for her.
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#205> but the eight sleep sure does harvest people’s bed data, and occasionally tweet about how they’re watching you sleep [Followed by a screenshot of the EightSleep CEO publicly tweeting about SF sleep data in Nov 2023.] This is reason enough to not patronize this business. What a creep.
This brand was heavily advertised on social media (TT, YT ads) as well.
I remember because I signed up for e-mail updates. Glad I never signed up though. IIRC, I was turned off by the same issues the author “overlooked”.
A subscription for a bed? Fuck off
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#206Re: I found a backdoor into my bed
#207My wife uses a Bedjet which has both a remote and app. Thankfully it works without an active Internet connection. It uses a bag-like sheet that it blows air into, to adjust temperature. For women suffering* through menopause, being able to adjust around hot/cold flushes is sanity-preserving! * Some women don't suffer much during perimenopause or menopause, but it's a process that seriously fucks with one's hormones.…
I may suggest this to my wife.. She's going through the hot flash stage..
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#208The state of the product's security wasn't unexpected. I was, however, shocked by this part: > I was willing to overlook: > The bed costs $2,000 > It won’t function if the internet goes down > Basic features are behind an additional $19/mo subscription > The bed’s only controls are via mobile app Nothing about this bed should depend on off-site servers. Nothing about the product should necessitate a subscription fee.…
In addition to everything else, also love how a bed with the express purpose to increase sleep quality requires you to open your phone every time you want to adjust a setting.
I mean while you are opening your phone you might as well check latest savings by DOGE, wouldn't it help you sleep even more safe and sound?
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#209A night mare I have is that alot of these products like 8 Sleep are actually scams.
Not scams in the sense of swindling money, but that they are appendages of a private or government intelligence network.
If you genuinely care about your customers, can't you simply feel guilty of doxing such sensitive data about them?
Some evil entities what to know when you sleep, wake up or if there is someone else in the bed.
I am not against technology, this can be done responsibly via offline support, self hosting options, E2E Encryption, Homomorphic computing, differential privacy etc.
But I guess implementing those would interfere with the scam i.e the main objective, which is spying on you.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also wonder what kind of bed costs $2000. Is it a bed made of gold and caviar? This article is confusing.
It's not actually a bed, it's a mattress cover. They are willing to sell you a mattress with it if you want, but the product itself is designed to go over your existing mattress. That said, good-quality beds cost money!
Wait - it's $2000 just for a mattress cover? You still need to spend $1k+ for frame + mattress?