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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by llamaimperative »

scarab92 wrote: post #189
masklinn wrote: post #57

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> I suspect they've reached the stage where they don't even need to pretend to pay lip service to their notional values. It took 6 weeks for that milk to rot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...

A couple of journalists broke Twitters rule on doxxing, and were briefly suspended. Wikipedia cops a lot of criticism for being politically biased. The fact it has a whole article around this seems to support that.

> link to Watergate Scandal article

> Wikipedia’s political bias confirmed

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by dtj1123 »

scarab92 wrote: post #189
masklinn wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I suspect they've reached the stage where they don't even need to pretend to pay lip service to their notional values. It took 6 weeks for that milk to rot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...

A couple of journalists broke Twitters rule on doxxing, and were briefly suspended. Wikipedia cops a lot of criticism for being politically biased. The fact it has a whole article around this seems to support that.

What exactly is it about that article that leads you to label it as politically biased? I see nothing but apparently factual information without any commentary.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by DrScientist »

everdrive wrote: post #152
ml-anon wrote: post #133

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Twitter was a net positive for many. Millions of people around the world relied on it for timely news and updates in the absence of other avenues. This was particularly pertinent in places like Africa where state infrastructure wasn't able to provide or indeed, the middle east, where censorship prevented accurate news being disseminated. So your assertion that "Twitter was _never_ a net positive for anyone" is not on…

>Given that overthrowing The Taliban (lol) and Saddam is hailed as a positive of the trillions of dollars and millions of lives spent on the GWOT, at least give the people of the Middle East the courtesy of acknowledging the overthrow of Ben Ali, Assad, Mubarak and Gaddafi. I don't believe either of those ended up positive either. The Taliban waited out the US; they may have been overthrown, but given that he Taliban…

> and I don't believe it can be argued that Iraq is any better off with Saddam gone > [....] My point would just be that populism and revolution do not necessitate positive outcomes.

The current worse state of Iraq ( post Saddam ) is nothing to do with populism - and all to do with foreign inference.

Though I agree with the general point about revolutions - one of the key problems with violent revolutions is quite often the most hardline nutters ( of whatever flavour ) tend to end up in charge as they are the most prepared to be violent.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by BSDobelix »

alt227 wrote: post #191
BSDobelix wrote: post #176

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>>Aren't racists a minority who struggle to express themselves? Maybe (if it's about black or white), but anti-Semites have a pretty loud and public voice in the "Western" world.

> anti-Semites have a pretty loud and public voice in the "Western" world So do Jews. So are we seeing full free speech in action? Or is whats right decided by which side people agree with?

>So are we seeing full free speech in action?

Even free speech has its limits...for example calling for the extermination of a race.

>Or is whats right decided by which side people agree with?

Correct, most of the time it is, and that is exactly why laws (esp. international ones) exist and Justitia is/should be blind.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by soulofmischief »

scarab92 wrote: post #189
masklinn wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I suspect they've reached the stage where they don't even need to pretend to pay lip service to their notional values. It took 6 weeks for that milk to rot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...

A couple of journalists broke Twitters rule on doxxing, and were briefly suspended. Wikipedia cops a lot of criticism for being politically biased. The fact it has a whole article around this seems to support that.

When you say "Wikipedia" do you mean the site operators, or the volunteer editors? If there is a factually incorrect statement in the article, instead of complaining about bias you can always edit it or start a section in the Talk page on the article. Be a part of the group and reduce its perceived bias.

The simple existence of a page that documents an event is not evidence of political bias, and that accusation says more about your own biases than it does Wikipedia editors.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by llamaimperative »

jmcgough wrote: post #86
matwood wrote: post #36

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We really are living in a world where we were always at war with Eurasia. Musk shouted loudly to his followers his views on free speech and why he wanted to buy Twitter. And now, it’s like it never happened. This isn’t like a bias news outlet leaving out certain facts, this is Musk himself saying these things and people going along with it. It’s bonkers to me.

I'm not sure you understand free speech. Free speech means he can make public threats to people without repercussions, doxx people when he feels like it, lie, and spread misinformation for personal gain. It means unbanning rule breakers, doxxers and harassers, as long as they're right-wing. Free speech does not extend to anyone who he personally disagrees with or dislikes, who will instead be banned from the platform…

Legal (first amendment) free speech certainly allows him to ban whoever he wants.

However, this is the exact behavior from prior owners that he counter-positioned himself against, allegedly pursuing a broader “free speech absolutism.” That philosophy certainly would not permit arbitrary bans of people he doesn’t like.

These mental gymnastics are remarkable to see.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by scarab92 »

dtj1123 wrote: post #203
scarab92 wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple of journalists broke Twitters rule on doxxing, and were briefly suspended. Wikipedia cops a lot of criticism for being politically biased. The fact it has a whole article around this seems to support that.

What exactly is it about that article that leads you to label it as politically biased? I see nothing but apparently factual information without any commentary.

It's existence.

A couple journalists broke a social media platform's rule on doxxing, and were temporarily suspended for it.

This wouldn't meet the standard for notability if it occurred on any other platform.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by jofzar »

alt227 wrote: post #196
xzjis wrote: post #126

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"Freedom of speech" on Twitter is nothing more than Newspeak for censorship. In reality, the goal has always been to silence minorities who already struggle to express themselves, while allowing hate, racist, homophobic, and transphobic language to run rampant. It is a form of indirect censorship, through the self-censorship of minorities who fear speaking out. Then comes direct censorship, where certain terms or lin…

> allowing hate, racist, homophobic, and transphobic language to run rampant Are the people with these views not also entitled to free speech and equal rights to express themselves the same as everybody else?

Honestly,no.
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