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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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E.g. the emergency braking is mandatory for new cars; https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20190410IP...

Could this mean you could get problems as this car does not conform to the standard?

It also does not conform to the reference cars which were used to acquire the type approval.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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> That’s the situation when EU consumer laws start failing That is not true at all. You have EXACTLY the same protections no matter where you purchase from in the EU, and there is a lot of assistance set up specifically to help handling cross-border issues. I do agree that the distance is definitely an issue for service though - its exactly why I haven't purchased a tesla

In theory same EU consumer protection everywhere. In the reality one needs layers in seller’s and buyer’s countries. Then the law can be exercised for many thousands euros. Edit: had this situation in 2024. BMW sold a faulty car with international warranty. When the buyer found broken rear differential BMW offered to cover 3% repair cost. So the question was to sue BMW or pay 4000€ for by warranty covered repair out…

> In the reality one needs layers in seller’s and buyer’s countries

That is also not true at all. Under EU consumer law, the consumer can bring a case against the seller in the consumers country. Please stop spreading misinformation.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2012/1215/oj/eng (section 4)

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Personally I draw the line somewhere before not funding someone who does nazi salutes. But you do you.

Again an opinion , Musk said it was not a Nazi salute, he didn't repeat it, he has many Jewish supporters also saying it wasn't. Just stop, please, I'm really about to give up on the comment sections here.

This seems like you're trying to say that you'll leave if you continue seeing things you don't agree with.

That's 100% allowed, i'd personally encourage it, if you find yourself in a place you don't enjoy, stop going to that place.

That's a mature response to a self-imposed stressful environment.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

They say they bought it on the foot of blog advice, which seems to have convinced them it was reliable. Tesla has a host of weird superfan online defenders; if they went down the wrong rabbithole it’s possible they simply didn’t know.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

I think it is unnecessary to say "Putting aside the ethics". This is a very personal thing, for you it would (presumably) take putting aside your ethics, and maybe it would for me. But that is not the case for everyone. I for one don't like it when people online, with every statement, signal their personal ethics. It gets to be very tiresome and degrades my HN experience. Actually it is degrading my whole internet br…

Actually I'm curious if there is some kind of representative poll among Tesla owners about whether their personal ethics still align with the company's (or rather, its owner's) ethics. I mean, this is the guy who as recently as 2017 quit as an advisor for the first Trump administration because of Trump exiting the Paris climate agreement (https://money.cnn.com/2017/06/01/news/elon-musk-resigns-trum...). Now I'm not sure which of the two alternatives is worse: that he has had a complete 180° turnaround of his moral compass, or that he was just pretending to care for the environment as long as it suited him?

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Personally I draw the line somewhere before not funding someone who does nazi salutes. But you do you.

Again an opinion , Musk said it was not a Nazi salute, he didn't repeat it, he has many Jewish supporters also saying it wasn't. Just stop, please, I'm really about to give up on the comment sections here.

Weird take. He repeated his salute immediately. ‘I can’t be ist because I know an ’ is hardly a new position.

Defend him all you want, he speaks for himself. We can see his actions and who he funds.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Personally I draw the line somewhere before not funding someone who does nazi salutes. But you do you.

Again an opinion , Musk said it was not a Nazi salute, he didn't repeat it, he has many Jewish supporters also saying it wasn't. Just stop, please, I'm really about to give up on the comment sections here.

I’m not sure that you can reasonably expect people to ignore this particular elephant in the room just for the sake of your psychological comfort, honestly.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Correction: You think that is useful. There are also people supporting Musk, should they add their statement to all of their posts? Is it really relevant? Don't you think people can't think for themselves? I follow the news, I'm pretty capable of deciding if I want a Tesla or not, people adding to all their posts that I should not doesn't change anything other then make me annoyed. Perhaps some like it, probably when…

I think there are lots of sort of tuned out but generally nice people who might shy away from buying a tesla if the perfidity of Musk is mentioned whenever tesla is discussed. The people who like Musk are probably beyond help

It always helps indeed, to change people's minds when you tell them "You are probably beyond help" or "You should feel bad if you do X". It's been great for my relationships!

In fact, I'm gonna write a blog post now: "Things I wish someone would have told me before I went online and started sharing my opinions"! It's gonna be a guaranteed front-pager!

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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There's two updates to the original post: - All my communications with the Budapest Service Center: https://www.myteslaexperience.com/2025-02-04/all-my-communic... - How to spit in a customer's face: https://www.myteslaexperience.com/2025-02-07/how-to-spit-in-...

It's funny to me to buy a domain name just for that.

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