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Don't take it personally, please. Just measuring my internal self which I inherited by coexisting many years with a similar regime.
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> A bunch of ML researchers who were initially hired to do quant work Very interesting! I'm sure you have a source for this claim? This myth of DS being a side project literally started from one tweet. DeepSeek the company is funded by a company whose main business is being a hedge fund, but DeepSeek itself from day 1 has been all about building LLM to reach AGI, completely independent. This is like saying SpaceX is…
See this earlier interview from 2020. https://www.pekingnology.com/p/ceo-of-deepseeks-parent-high-... TDLR Highflyer started very much as exclusive ML/AI focused quant investment firm, with a lot of compute for finance AI and mining. Then CCP cracked down on mining... then finance, so Liang probably decided to pivot to LLM/AGI, which likely started as side project, but probably not anymore now the DeepSeek has taken…
The point is, the team actually doing the DeepSeek work are working on this as their exclusive project, have been hired exclusively for this etc.
They aren't doing this on the side of their main quant job, and destroying U.S. researchers just as a hobby as the myth would have us believe.
And that's why you run models locally. Or if you want a remote chat model, use something stateless like AWS Bedrock custom model import to avoid having stored chats on the server.
i suggest you guys don't do that also
this industry in china is so young, many devs and orgs don't understand what will happened if they shutdown the firewall or expose their database on the internet without a password
they just, can't think of it, need someone to remind them
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Their models are open weights, and they are supported in ollama. You can run locally if you have sufficient hardware.
Well, thanks for not calling it open source! I did run it locally. It behaved as you would expect when asked about things the CCP cares about. https://hongkongfp.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/brave_udRs...
In fact these models are less lobotomized than western open source models.
Does DeepSeek have a bug bounty program I'm not aware of with a clearly defined scope? It appears that Wiz took it upon themselves to probe and access DeepSeek's systems without permission and then write about it. If you do this and the company you're conducting your "research" on hasn't given you permission in some form, you can get yourself in a lot of hot water under the CFAA in the USA and other laws around the w…
> The Wiz Research team immediately and responsibly disclosed the issue to DeepSeek, which promptly secured the exposure
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See this earlier interview from 2020. https://www.pekingnology.com/p/ceo-of-deepseeks-parent-high-... TDLR Highflyer started very much as exclusive ML/AI focused quant investment firm, with a lot of compute for finance AI and mining. Then CCP cracked down on mining... then finance, so Liang probably decided to pivot to LLM/AGI, which likely started as side project, but probably not anymore now the DeepSeek has taken…
Yes, see my analogy with Elon. The point is, the team actually doing the DeepSeek work are working on this as their exclusive project, have been hired exclusively for this etc. They aren't doing this on the side of their main quant job, and destroying U.S. researchers just as a hobby as the myth would have us believe.
How do we know for sure that DeepSeek is not actually trained on Nvidia chips? Did someone outside of China replicated the training from scratch (Spending $6M)?
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Someone who worked on a non-English environment years ago here: sometimes you do use the local language in some contexts, but, more often than not, you end up using English for the majority of stuff since it's a bit off-putting to mix another language with the English of programming languages and APIs.
Dumb question, but it would then seem that you have to know English to program??