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Re: Nobody cares

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Post by UncleOxidant »

Fricken wrote: post #135

>White LEDs reduce car crashes by 0.1% and that is measurable, but sleep quality and aesthetics are not measurable. You just have to care about them. And nobody cares. I've always been sensitive to the flicker and broken colour spectrum of fluorescent lights, it has been a longstanding "How come everyone is so willing to spend all day every day under these horrible lights?" type pet peeve. This guy has a problem with…

Also he says that they switched to white LEDs because they don't care when they likely switched to save on their electric bill.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by johnnyanmac »

medhir wrote: post #12

I relate to this a lot. Someone is referring to this take as “bullshit” contrasting the experience of the average worker to a software engineer. I’d argue the average worker is in the position they’re in because of a whole chain of people that couldn’t be bothered to care. Our government has let go of its principles, because no one in charge could be bothered to give a fuck. There’s a certain nihilism to life in the…

>Our government has let go of its principles, because no one in charge could be bothered to give a fuck.

Oh they care... about money. We're being sold out but keep re-electing the same perpetrators simply because "it's better than the other person".

Meanwhile a third of our country is a mix of "not caring" or legitmately unable to keep dates in mind and find a poll booth to vote. Who knows how things would change if voting was compulsory, as was receiving a ballot in the mail.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by johnnyanmac »

medhir wrote: post #95
lazide wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wait until you try to speak up and get destroyed. Why do you think folks don’t speak up?

so… the fear of speaking up should lead to staying silent? what exactly are you advocating for here

It's human nature. You don't put your hand into a fire because early in your childhood, you learned the consequences of those actions.

>what exactly are you advocating for here

Nothing really. Bad people do bad things to keep good people down. figure out how to prevent that.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by shermantanktop »

auggierose wrote: post #197

That bike lane ending might be so because it forces you to slow down. You are not supposed to crash into unsuspecting pedestrians when the bike lane ends. You should actually stop and get off the bike at this point.

Given the design, looks like the rider will definitely be getting off the bike one way or the other.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by johnnyanmac »

kmoser wrote: post #69
spencerflem wrote: post #6

Why should someone working at big tech care? Their mission is , generally , to 'capture value' from elsewhere and in the process make the world worse. Hard mission to get behind. And why should a 7/11 worker care? Their employer doesn't care about them. Minimum wage / minimum effort and all that. And Elon Musk as the sole positive example is so lame. All this bothers me because despite everything I do still care. But…

> And why should a 7/11 worker care? Their employer doesn't care about them. Minimum wage / minimum effort and all that. Because their actions affect the customers they interact with, who have no direct bearing on their jobs or salaries. To make your customers suffer because you're angry at your boss is misdirected at best, and selfish at worst.

it's a chain of broken windows. Their employers should care about making sure the primary interface with business cares. But they don't. So it goes down the chain until we simply say "7/11 is a sad place to be"

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by reverendsteveii »

There are an infinite number of things to care about (which is to say, to spend resources on, because that's what caring about something actually means), a finite amount of resources allocated to everyone except about 6 people who have a practically infinite amount of resources, and a social organization system that revolves around getting as much of those resources as possible and nothing else. What you're looking at is the real end product of "there is no such thing as society, only the individual and the family" neoliberalism. It's not just that no one cares, it's not even that no one has answered the question "Why should I care?". It's that the majority of people simply cannot care.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by johnnyanmac »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #85
kmoser wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why the huge disparity between cultural attitudes in the USA vs. Japan? Clearly the Japanese tend to take more pride of ownership, which is OP's point.

He only thinks it's that way because in Japan, he's the big man with the big bucks the whole society caters to. An average Japanese person probably makes a terrible salary, has few if any economic prospects, sees a stagnant economy, and also is very unlikely to even start a family. I'd much rather have a family than have store clerks obsses about serving me. If you have tons of money in Seattle area and live in an ex…

Those are a lot of very wrong assumptions. Salaries aren't US level but more than liveable because even most non-tokyo housing is perfectly reasonable. The economny is stagnant (and now recessionary) but they have a decent amount of safety nets. They don't need to worry about walking to work one day to be locked out or being in debt if they collapse (yes, there are some very dark work patterns to "lay off", but you won't suddenly have zero salary next month).

>I'd much rather have a family than have store clerks obsses about serving me.

Okay, the US has neither. So...

>If you have tons of money in Seattle area and live in an exurb, and only go to Seattle for the orchestra and a baseball game in a box, you probably think everyone in America cares too

These are small micro-behaviors, not a larger mindset. Even a rich tourist would notice the difference between someone taking your ticket for an orcheastra and going to a corner store in Japan.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by johnnyanmac »

kmoser wrote: post #59
ivraatiems wrote: post #29

What the author of this post is actually mad about is that most people don't care about him . The people who designed the DMV don't care about him. The people who made the crappy Oracle HR software he probably has to use don't care about him. The people who designed the bike lanes don't care about him. It's not their job to. They have about a million other priorities, they're not sorry about it, and they shouldn't be…

Then why the huge disparity between cultural attitudes in the USA vs. Japan? Clearly the Japanese tend to take more pride of ownership, which is OP's point.

It's cultural. Japan and Asian in general is a lot more conformist and taught to care about the larger society. Huge contrast of the individualism of US enforcing "hustle culture" and "dog eat dog world".

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by johnnyanmac »

ivraatiems wrote: post #82
kmoser wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why the huge disparity between cultural attitudes in the USA vs. Japan? Clearly the Japanese tend to take more pride of ownership, which is OP's point.

Japan also has an entire group of people so disillusioned with society they completely lock themselves off from it (0), record high suicide rates (1), record low fertility rates (2), and a far lower rate of self-reported happiness. I don't know why they prioritize differently, but I don't think it's working out for them. Which set of tradeoffs would you rather live under? (0) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomor…

>Which set of tradeoffs would you rather live under?

I'll take the one that doesn't lay me over every year to hit record profits, thanks. There's degrees of not caring and the US is very far on the "you are just a number" peg. The fake drinking parties at least try to make me feel involved.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by azeirah »

> The McDonald's touch-screen self-order kiosk takes 27 clicks to get a meal. They try to up-sell you 3 times. Just let me pay for my fucking burger, Jesus Christ. The product manager, the programmer, the executives. None of these people care.

I was working in this space! And I got fired for refusing to work on more upsell features for clients like Coca Cola and such.

I don't want to work on adding fucking ADS into checkout. That is fucked up.

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