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Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by WeylandYutani »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #120
SnowingXIV wrote: post #95

There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

FAANG engineers in general are remarkably well informed as to who is buttering their bread. You may assume that Google engineers are excruciatingly aware (particularly after several rounds of layoffs) that their continued paychecks and stock grant value depend on continuing to firehose advertising into the face of the general public from every possible angle.

The entire internet runs on ads unfortunately.

I ditched YouTube entirely since this year because I got fed up with the commercial breaks but I am 41 I no longer need to know about the memes and trends.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by RandyOrion »

Using ungoogled chromium for now. Ublock works without hassle.

Note that it's MORE complicated to setup ungoogled chromium because it doesn't contain any basic syncing service and update service. You need to do the first time setup manually as said in its FAQ. You also need to setup your own or use existing account / bookmark syncing service as well as software update service for convenience, e.g., vaultwarden server and bitwarden extension for account syncing.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by mehlmao »

olliej wrote: post #172
SnowingXIV wrote: post #95

There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

So there are multiple factors here - I used to work on browsers so have some experience here :D First off, there are legitimate security concerns with the kind of functionality required for effective ad blocking given the immense work the ad industry (i.e google) have put into preventing purely static filters is also very powerful for exploitation. Those powers can (and have been) abused: the recent news about "Honey…

Please show me a real-world page that performs worse on Chrome with no extensions than on Chrome with Unlock Origin.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by QuiEgo »

I find this whole thing frustrating.

Chrome is going full on user hostile. But, most people use it, so webpages "just work." It's also reasonably good on battery use and memory (as of late 2024 - it's come a long way).

Safari is resource efficient but has very few browser extensions, and sometimes webpages just don't work correctly with it.

Firefox has uBlock but has noticeably worse battery life, and does not honor the host OS UI conventions (right click, look up... is something I use all the time sigh).

None of them make me a happy user.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by greazy »

QuiEgo wrote: post #206

I find this whole thing frustrating. Chrome is going full on user hostile. But, most people use it, so webpages "just work." It's also reasonably good on battery use and memory (as of late 2024 - it's come a long way). Safari is resource efficient but has very few browser extensions, and sometimes webpages just don't work correctly with it. Firefox has uBlock but has noticeably worse battery life, and does not honor…

Is there any benchmarking of Firefox vs Chrome?I have not seen any hard data, only anecdotal evidence. I use it on android with no noticeable difference.

I use Firefox everywhere, haven't had a problem.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by QuiEgo »

greazy wrote: post #208
QuiEgo wrote: post #206

I find this whole thing frustrating. Chrome is going full on user hostile. But, most people use it, so webpages "just work." It's also reasonably good on battery use and memory (as of late 2024 - it's come a long way). Safari is resource efficient but has very few browser extensions, and sometimes webpages just don't work correctly with it. Firefox has uBlock but has noticeably worse battery life, and does not honor…

Is there any benchmarking of Firefox vs Chrome?I have not seen any hard data, only anecdotal evidence. I use it on android with no noticeable difference. I use Firefox everywhere, haven't had a problem.

On macOS, I've seen a few attempts like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/12n7162/part_3_fin...

but it ends up being very user-workload-specific. Every webpage is different - e.x. Pintrest may be more battery efficient on Safari, but if I never go there, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

For my workflow, Safari and Chrome seem about the same, Firefox seems to land me 10-20% lower on battery after 4 hours or so of use. Unfortunately, I don't have any more scientific data than that.

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