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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by cpill »

qzw wrote: post #68
breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

Exactly my thoughts as well. Every piece of evidence law enforcement has was basically intentionally provided by him. If he just stuffed his trash in one of his 7 pockets, or wore a pair of sunglasses, or didn't actually stare straight at the camera in the taxi like he was getting his school picture taken? I mean pretty much the only thing he failed to do was leave his business card at the crime scene.

I guess the next one can learn from this one and they will iteratively get better at not getting caught.

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Post by booleandilemma »

cellwebb wrote: post #178
JKCalhoun wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the case, you make a call to a reporter — and then walk into a police station to surrender to authorities.

I mean if he's giving himself up, why not gift a mcdonald's employee 60k?

I can't help but think of another nyc shooter, Frank James, who was also caught at a McDonald's after turning himself in.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/search-new-york-subway-gunm...

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Post by deadbabe »

I just think it’s great that for a short time, we got to live this fantasy that being a rich CEO is no guarantee that someone couldn’t easily just walk up to you one day, kill you off, and then disappear without a trace as a hero to those you did wrong.

The fantasy of jury nullification is still alive, but very unlikely to happen. If someone can turn the guy in, then someone could easily find him guilty.

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Post by e_y_ »

double0jimb0 wrote: post #120
Miner49er wrote: post #65

Might be fake, but looks like he may have had a dead man's switch upload a YouTube video: https://youtu.be/bdhs9g3Wwg0

YouTube account was terminated at 4:11PM MST, I was watching it live as it switched to this message: “This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.”

CNN quoted someone from Google saying it was a fake (old account that just changed its handle today).

IMHO there ought to be restrictions and transparency on channel name changes because it gets abused all the time.

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Post by sidewndr46 »

byteknight wrote: post #31
BryantD wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eric Adams doesn't have a strong reality filter, and it's usually good to cross-check things he says, especially if he's the only person saying them. I don't think he consciously makes things up, he just tends to gravitate towards saying things that sound good in the moment. Or, if we're being really charitable, they were chasing the wrong guy.

All you did was make the phrase "makes things up" more palatable. It still means the same thing. He lies.

Let me remind you here that it is the job of the government and specifically the police to lie to you. So if he was lying, he was doing his job.

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

astrange wrote: post #106
crawfordcomeaux wrote: post #33

With programmers, hackers, computer scientists, systems designers/engineers carrying some of the most privileged skillsets needed for designing and implementing replacements to systems of oppression (and disruptions to said systems), I've been wondering where the ones working to do this can be found. I learned in Computer Ethics 101 about how the history of the development of radiological machines led to the realizat…

If you want better healthcare you don't need to invent anything new or "disrupt systems of oppression". Just pick another country where it's working and do what they do. Largely, they have a lot more doctors, hospitals and MRI machines per capita than we do, and they pay their doctors less and require less education from them. This is particularly safer in America because the #1 thing voters hate is anyone doing anyt…

> If you want better healthcare you don't need to invent anything new or "disrupt systems of oppression". Just pick another country where it's working and do what they do.

Sure. That's like telling me that if I want to win an Olympic gold medal, I should just do what Phelps does. It'll work, right?

Even those countries may only have metastable healthcare economics, and while it looks as if it works now it could fail in the future. In the short term.

> Largely, they have a lot more doctors, hospitals and MRI machines per capita than we do,

So you're saying that all we need to do is have more resources that we don't have more of?

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Post by aorloff »

breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

The only part I don't get now is the cell phone

I assumed he had some help with the timing via the burner phone

But this all looks very lone wolfish now

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Post by jcgrillo »

lawlessone wrote: post #12

>Police revealed that finding the 26-year-old was a complete surprise, and that they did not have his name on a list of suspects prior to today So when they said they knew who he was yesterday it was a lie.

Yes, they do that. Lying is how they operate, especially when questioning or trying to mess with suspects. You can never trust anything a cop says.

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Post by fshr »

ks2048 wrote: post #187
imglorp wrote: post #75

His Goodreads comment on Ted Kacyzinski's book (better known for other work). https://i.redd.it/j9n3oplojv5e1.jpeg

Final sentence is telling (among others): "Violence never solved anything" is a statement uttered by cowards and predators. Although I'm not sure what "predators" means here. Don't predators use violence?

My guess is he was referring to financial predators. Greed and lust rather than wrath.

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Post by diob »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #152
imglorp wrote: post #75

His Goodreads comment on Ted Kacyzinski's book (better known for other work). https://i.redd.it/j9n3oplojv5e1.jpeg

More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

Part of the reason we established courts was to avoid angry mobs dispensing justice, but we've let the courts become captured to a large extent.

If you don't allow folks to seek justice in the courtroom, they'll inevitably return to "the jungle" so to speak.

It's our job as participants in society to do our best to avoid that, but we have to make changes. We can't be idle and wring our hands saying "it can't be helped" or "it's not illegal". We have to change things so that folks will be held accountable.

If we don't, this sort of thing is inevitable.

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