I do not want to criticize anybody. But I think this is a fire hazard and I would not recommend it in a place so close to jet fuel and jet engines.
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#202I do not want to criticize anybody. But I think this is a fire hazard and I would not recommend it in a place so close to jet fuel and jet engines.
If a planes jet engine gets close enough to the roof of the airport to burn this treated lumber, there’s bigger problems afoot.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe the other improvement people don't pay attention to is the new TSA scanners you don't have to take your laptop out.
You're lucky you get to use those. In Holland they had those at Schiphol Airport and we were able to leave liquids in our bags and the 100ml limit was removed. But the EU ordered it to be reintroduced because they wanted the rules the same within Europe. Edit: This previously said we could no longer keep the laptops in our bags but this part was not affected, I've amended this post to avoid confusion.
As you have figured out this change was only about the liquids to adhere to EU standards, I of course dislike it as somewhat frequent flyer, but it makes sense to make a standard.
Now if only I could leave my laptop in everywhere, that would be nice. I never fly without my laptop and it gets old quite fast somehow having to figure out if I should take it out (and spent 5 minutes putting it back in, which sucks if it was not required) or try to take it out when people are waiting on you. I just wished airports would put clear signs up what you have to take out so I can prepare before I get to the belt.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like the same scanner tech that has been deployed at some Australian airports. Flying out of Melbourne 18 months ago and I'm getting ready to take my laptop and water bottle out. Nope, firmly told to keep it all in my bag. They still pulled me aside, but had a cool 3D model of the inside of my bag. Of course they ruin the efficiency advantage of that by then putting us through body scanners. If you're not in t…
Ahh is that why. I'm pretty heavy too and I've been groped way too much in Amsterdam too :(
Hah! When flying back to the states through Heathrow, some years ago, the TSA gentleman frisked me so well I jokingly asked him if I owed him dinner. He very briefly cracked a smile, then told me to move along.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe the other improvement people don't pay attention to is the new TSA scanners you don't have to take your laptop out.
Sounds like the same scanner tech that has been deployed at some Australian airports. Flying out of Melbourne 18 months ago and I'm getting ready to take my laptop and water bottle out. Nope, firmly told to keep it all in my bag. They still pulled me aside, but had a cool 3D model of the inside of my bag. Of course they ruin the efficiency advantage of that by then putting us through body scanners. If you're not in t…
Most people are within BMI range, I for one, actually enjoy the benefit. And as long as the majority of the people benefit from it I prefer it this way then the other way around.
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#206I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore. [1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775... [2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in…
I'm extremely pro-rail but Portland is not the city to bash for short haul domestic flights.
Amtrak Cascades is very popular for trips to Seattle.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently they used 4.4 million cubic yards of concrete during the construction of Denver airport around 1993. That's 3.364×10^6 m3, 1 m3 of concrete weighs 2.4 tonnes (I'm sure it varies), so roughly 8 million tonnes of concrete. https://www.concreteconstruction.net/_view-object?id=0000015... I'm not convinced the wood used in the Portland airport project is net negative in itself, once you factor in the emissions…
I found a more authoritative reference, from the Institute of Structural Engineers, which appears to be a major international organization [ISE]. The Embodied Carbon figure they use is 1.64kgCO2/kg timber as a rule of thumb [ISE-EC], and agrees with what I posted above For processing that yields built lumber, they account in stages, with % CO2 emissions added: A1) Raw Material Extraction, 20-25% A2) Transport to Faci…
The e is short for equivalent.
https://chancerylaneproject.org/glossary/carbon-dioxide-equi...
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#208I just flew through there and saw the renovation for the first time, and it is an absolutely stunning transformation. Just incredible. I loved it. The whole thing. From the ceiling to the ticketing islands to the reworked security to the amphitheater style seating areas at the terminal exit where friends & family can await your arrival. It feels spacious, natural, functional, and hospitable.
> It feels spacious, natural, functional, and hospitable. If we want to solve the climate crisis, this is everything an airport should not be.
How should it be? Are you thinking it would be outside in the elements? Or is there a building type/design that you're thinking of?
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#209The continued existence of airports terminals is weird. Its like a temple devoted to muda. They solve a synchronization problem by cacheing all the inputs for the flight manifest instead of making effort to pull all the inputs just in time.
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#210Does Portland airport have the same issues with homeless people as other major US airports?
There are airports with homeless problems?? It’s impossible to walk to my local airport (MSP), but you can take a train or bus there. I figured most airports were similar, but maybe I’m wrong.
Mpls/St Paul has lots of homeless people, but I’ve never seen one at the airport and I’m there at least monthly.