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A pretty visualisation of the European power grid (2022)

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Re: A pretty visualisation of the European power grid (2022)

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> Renewables' share is up, therefore they replace fossil fuels because without renewables France should burn more fossil fuels. Once again the declining share is nuclear. Fossils are stable as the data you quote shows. > If in your opinion each and every resource (expertise, material...) used to deploy electricity-producing plants is 100% adequate for electrifying My point is that this is irrelevant since the bottlen…

> the declining share is nuclear OMG, is it a joke? Consumption is stable, OK? Nuclear produced less, OK? Therefore renewables compensated for nuclear declining production, OK? Therefore burning more fossil fuels was not necessary, OK? Therefore renewables replaced them, OK? > the bottleneck is money My point is solid even given this perspective: the way public money is used is of paramount importance: government rec…

Nuclear is not down for intrinsic reasons, it is down because it comes after renewables in merit order, and therefore when renewables are available, it is scaled down.

In low renewables availability episodes, there isn’t more fossil production, we simply ramp nuclear up.

Re: A pretty visualisation of the European power grid (2022)

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post #201

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> the declining share is nuclear OMG, is it a joke? Consumption is stable, OK? Nuclear produced less, OK? Therefore renewables compensated for nuclear declining production, OK? Therefore burning more fossil fuels was not necessary, OK? Therefore renewables replaced them, OK? > the bottleneck is money My point is solid even given this perspective: the way public money is used is of paramount importance: government rec…

Nuclear is not down for intrinsic reasons, it is down because it comes after renewables in merit order, and therefore when renewables are available, it is scaled down. In low renewables availability episodes, there isn’t more fossil production, we simply ramp nuclear up.

> it is down because it comes after renewables in merit order

Nope. This is provably false, and even the pertinent official authority (RTE) says so: https://x.com/factsory/status/1712155368304898137

Details:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCKv0C6Dqs&t=561s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCKv0C6Dqs&t=2273s

Re: A pretty visualisation of the European power grid (2022)

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post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nuclear is not down for intrinsic reasons, it is down because it comes after renewables in merit order, and therefore when renewables are available, it is scaled down. In low renewables availability episodes, there isn’t more fossil production, we simply ramp nuclear up.

> it is down because it comes after renewables in merit order Nope. This is provably false, and even the pertinent official authority (RTE) says so: https://x.com/factsory/status/1712155368304898137 Details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCKv0C6Dqs&t=561s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCKv0C6Dqs&t=2273s

None of the sources you quote is RTE.

And both videos you quote state clearly that the production program is built using merit order, in which renewables always come first.

Re: A pretty visualisation of the European power grid (2022)

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> it is down because it comes after renewables in merit order Nope. This is provably false, and even the pertinent official authority (RTE) says so: https://x.com/factsory/status/1712155368304898137 Details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCKv0C6Dqs&t=561s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCKv0C6Dqs&t=2273s

None of the sources you quote is RTE. And both videos you quote state clearly that the production program is built using merit order, in which renewables always come first.

> None of the sources you quote is RTE.

You didn't watch or understand them. The first thread referenced, on x.com, offers a link towards https://www.youtube.com/live/xP4jL4b_Nnk?si=P4X_qMV9vtkpVD7z... This guy is RTE's official representative. Please listen to what he says, and let me know whether you persist to deny or reckon.

> merit order

A technical merit order, established to optimize and therefore to prefer the most adequate (overall) source. It is enforced for ages and for all sources, it isn't some arbitrarily established rule aiming at hurting poor nuclear lil'baby. If nuclear cannot compete it will disappear. The processus already started.

Re: A pretty visualisation of the European power grid (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of the sources you quote is RTE. And both videos you quote state clearly that the production program is built using merit order, in which renewables always come first.

> None of the sources you quote is RTE. You didn't watch or understand them. The first thread referenced, on x.com, offers a link towards https://www.youtube.com/live/xP4jL4b_Nnk?si=P4X_qMV9vtkpVD7z... This guy is RTE's official representative. Please listen to what he says, and let me know whether you persist to deny or reckon. > merit order A technical merit order, established to optimize and therefore to prefer th…

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