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Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by e1g »

riazrizvi wrote: post #179
ndiddy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad our government has introduced the H1B program to help out employers like you who are dealing with a shortage of tech workers (who will work for 2/3 market and will do anything you say because if they get fired they'll be deported).

In 2023 there were 755,020 H1-B admittances. Why was it much easier to get a job in 2021? Because there were only 148,603 [1]. Notice that even though Republicans talked about immigration, neither party is talking about reducing H1-B filled roles. The kicker is if you’ve had a gap doing your own thing or because you were laid off and you apply for a job at a discount salary, you’re still not competitive against an H1…

By law, the number of H1B visas issued per year is capped at 80k, and that's how many have been issued every year for the last twenty years.

"Admittance rates" measure how many H1B people travel internationally and then return to the USA. Unsurprisingly, in 2023, more people traveled internationally than in 2021, when almost all countries closed their borders.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by kccqzy »

renegat0x0 wrote: post #105

Recently I have found several things: - there are some positions that exist only to receive new personal data information. There are companies that scrape user data when you apply for a job - some job positions are kept to make employees more productive - some job positions are kept open to show investors "we are still hiring", "we have no problems, etc. - some HR just want to have more and more data, some times it i…

Talking to a couple of people who found jobs recently, I realized that none of them actually found the job by applying online. All of them are through human relationships. It doesn't have to be someone who knew someone, but even an outsourced recruiting agency staffed by humans in a call center is more useful than applying online. The better recruiting agencies usually have an account manager who has a direct line to the company that's hiring.

Online job seeking is dead.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by returningfory2 »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #83
indoordin0saur wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, this isn't clear to me. Are the interviewees citizens? So you're interviewing citizens to prove that there aren't any who can fill your jobs but even when they clearly could fill the job you don't hire them? Seems like the requirement of proving "there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job" is going to be near impossible for the government to enforce

Yes, h1b hiring practices have been shady at best for atleast a decade. For everyone that just doesn’t want to fire a coworker there is someone taking advantage of cheap labor that is easier to control under the threat of deportation. The h1b program is supposed to be for people at the top of their field so they can skip the normal visa line, but it is commonly used to save money through exploitation. A long time ago…

> The h1b program is supposed to be for people at the top of their field so they can skip the normal visa line, but it is commonly used to save money through exploitation.

This is false. O-1 is the visa for the "people at the top of their field". H-1B is for regular employees.

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Post by samuelec »

avgDev wrote: post #173
Lammy wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm already there with the monthly HN hiring threads. Not one of those companies over several years ever responded to me, even the ones where the listing felt tailor made for me, even the ones that literally said they respond to all applicants. They're a total waste of time lol

Seems like it would be beneficial to the community for someone to add some kind of a rating system for people posting in the HN hiring threads. I would expect at minimum to get a response. Internet has gone to shit. It used to be much easier to find genuine people on the internet. Now, it is all marketing non-sense and filled with get-rich types.

Naah! it would ended up like Glassdoors which keeps deleting posts that don't serve the company narrative..

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Post by masfuerte »

bob1029 wrote: post #50
oriel wrote: post #17

A question I've had on my mind for a while now, watching this progression of fake or poisoned jobs, and miles of automatic systems to navigate: At what point do people consider the well poisoned? Where they just check out and stop applying, to specific companies or in general, because its very very obvious that there isnt actually a valid hiring market at all. I ask this question, because I've already passed this thr…

> I've already passed this threshold, and have instead devoted the maximum of my time to personal ventures. Same here. After a certain point you are doing yourself a disservice by enduring rejection notices if you actually have the skills you claim to. The hardest part is having faith in yourself and the possibility of acquiring a customer.

Rejection notices? I get ghosted. I would welcome a rejection notice.

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Post by htrp »

bradley13 wrote: post #59

I once applied for a job that precisely matched my qualifications. It was crazy - the job description could have been written by someone looking at my CV. I didn't even get an interview. Likely no one did. It wasn't a ghost job, though. It was a position created for a someone they wanted to hire. Being a public institution, they were required to advertise positions. That didn't mean that they actually wanted any of t…

I once applied for my own job req (a JD I wrote for a role on my own team), and the HR system automatically kicked my resume out for being unqualified.

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

ndiddy wrote: post #36
shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

I'm glad our government has introduced the H1B program to help out employers like you who are dealing with a shortage of tech workers (who will work for 2/3 market and will do anything you say because if they get fired they'll be deported).

What makes you so sure the job wouldn't just exist somewhere cheaper like Europe if they couldn't hire for 2/3 in the US?

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Post by toomuchtodo »

shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

For those who come across this type of fraud, reporting is straightforward. You can report anonymously.

https://www.uscis.gov/scams-fraud-and-misconduct/report-frau...

https://www.uscis.gov/report-fraud/uscis-tip-form

I would also report as securities fraud to the SEC, but that is a higher hill to climb.

https://www.sec.gov/submit-tip-or-complaint/tips-complaints-...

(not calling OP out specifically, general guidance when you come across illegal labor practices)

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Post by whoomp12342 »

avgDev wrote: post #173
Lammy wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm already there with the monthly HN hiring threads. Not one of those companies over several years ever responded to me, even the ones where the listing felt tailor made for me, even the ones that literally said they respond to all applicants. They're a total waste of time lol

Seems like it would be beneficial to the community for someone to add some kind of a rating system for people posting in the HN hiring threads. I would expect at minimum to get a response. Internet has gone to shit. It used to be much easier to find genuine people on the internet. Now, it is all marketing non-sense and filled with get-rich types.

I assumed that was upvoting?
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