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Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Wasn't this also sort of a feature with Twitter? iirc the retweet and other now popular features were originally hacked together by users

Retweet was original using the text "RT". Hashtags were also invented by Twitter users.

I think reblogs as a technical feature were added first in 2009 by Tumblr and slightly later adopted by Twitter - not that it matters in this context.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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How does it compare to Threads?

The loudest complaint I see about threads (lack of hyperlinks) doesn't apply there. Also, Threads seems covered in growth-hacking dark patterns, like the notification/activity screen being flooded with "picked for you". edit: my big worry about BSky is the lack of any coherent monetization plan. This isn't community-funded stuff like Mastodon, it's VC-funded software - there will be a need for revenue at some point a…

> my big worry about BSky is the lack of any coherent monetization plan.

That's a reasonable concern. I assumed there would be ads at some point, but that's not the way that they are going for now.

> we will begin developing a subscription model for features like higher quality video uploads or profile customizations like colors and avatar frames.

https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2024-series-a

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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It looks like the Internet is now being compartmentalized based on one's political affiliation and groups. X is turning out to be where Conservatives are going to be living, Bluesky, Reddit and Treads will be for Liberals. These platform don't outright ban opposing views but I think moderation policies and the users will shift these groups into one or the other. I'm not sure if one can have a platform where respectfu…

Promise of bluesky is that different front ends can have different moderation policies, and you have account portability should you be prevented from interacting with bsky.app (provided you were self hosting your pod. I don't actually know if you can export your data if you are "banned" from the main instance, I'll have to look into that)

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post-2024, with Elon running the government as fiscal/regulatory czar, Twitter policy is evidently stronger than judicial interpretation of Constitutional rights.

What happens to Twitter when Musk has to step down from his roles with Twitter/SpaceX/Tesla? Will sanity be allowed to fill the void? I really doubt anything at SpaceX/Tesla changes, but Twitter has the most wiggle room under someone else's leadership

Why would he step down? He doesn't seem the type to give up power just because something shiny is taking his attention. It's not like the incoming administration has signed a pledge to avoid conflicts of interest or anything

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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I have no interest in being in a left-leaning bubble. I get both sides on X, so far. People think X has been leaning more and more to the right, but in truth it's just not being censored (sorry, moderated) anymore, leading to more right-leaning content. Leftists can't really tolerate any difference of opinion so they move to other platforms, it's sad. But I think they'll be bored and eventually come back for some mor…

What specific type of content was being censored before Elon took over that is being allowed now?

In the particular little culture war concerning gender identity, pre Elon you would get banned for "deadnaming" and criticizing the health claims of gender clinics (aka transphobia)

It's flipped now, Elon has tweeted that using cis to describe not-trans people is a slur. Which seems like going the other way on "free speech absolutism" but whatever.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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A lot of high profile commentators were waiting until after the election to move to Bluesky. They felt that they'd be giving up their influence if they left then, but now that the election is over they have time to rebuild onto a new platform. Bluesky seems quite nice. I was on Mastadon for a while, but after the initial burst of activity, its silo-like orientation led to stagnant servers. That is, it neither fully e…

There's another narrative that I've heard about the recent flood of former-X users into Bluesky: a new Terms of Service document goes into effect in about 4 days, giving X ownership of your content with respect to its use in training LLMs.

I thought Grok has been using Twitter content this whole time, are they just getting around to updating their ToS?

I can see some amount of protest, people who are anti-AI/pro-copyright might find a better niche on bsky, but everything you post there is public so it's legal for anyone to scrape and train with

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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It was about "hate speech" though, not "unpleasant speech", then you'd be right. Stop thinking in us/them, everybody hates someone or something and that's fine. That's not what hate speech is I think. Take one example from the Canadian govmnt: > The bill defines “hate speech” as the content of a communication that expresses detestation or vilification of an individual or group of individuals on the basis of a prohibi…

Sure, there are clear differences between hate speech and unpleasant speech. I can't disagree on the definition. But I’m seeing a lot of hateful anti-Trump posts on BlueSky, and on X/Twitter, there’s plenty of pro-Trump content. These two groups have polarized views, so they naturally clash. What I find ironic is that BlueSky has many openly anti-Trump posts, while X/Twitter tends to have a significant amount of pro-…

Good news is you can create your own labeling service that people can subscribe and report posts to and you can have a feed completely devoid of hate speech against the government.

Also, if you're in a group of people that trumps policies target (immigrants with undocumented family members, women and trans people who want bodily autonomy, Arabs with family in Palestine) then all that pro-trump positivity starts to feel pretty hateful too, just in case you haven't looked at it from that angle.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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I must be one of those tiny dots just floating in nothingness because my BSKY feed is a dead zone. I've posted, I've replied, I've liked and tried to be an active participant but nothing seems to stick. There's only so many posts I can publish "for myself" before I lose interest. Contrast this with early Twitter where everyone was just super excited, and eager to follow new people. I don't get it, shouldn't a new soc…

The account with your handle is following only a handful of people, and is broadcasting content rather than engaging in a conversation. Consider the reverse.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Yeah, but that doesn't solve the data privacy problem. Not that I care, I'd love to be able to do all sorts of stuff with scraped datasets.

One would hope the people on bluesky understand that they're posting publically to a centralized database. What data privacy problem are you concerned with?

As I understand it, the moment you're processing someone's personally identifiable information, you're in the red zone, GDPR-wise. The users consented to publish their info on BlueSky, but not on OP's website.

I get the idea behind the GDPR and it's nice to protect consumers but I'm scared for hobby projects like this.

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