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Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

93po wrote: post #175
textlapse wrote: post #46

There are a few privately owned companies that amaze me: JetBrains, Valve among the top. Somehow they have a much better value/user and make reasonable decisions: counter intuitive to investors/shareholders but insanely intuitive to their users. I am sure the public market has made the general public reap the rewards of large companies (kudos!) but some of the privately owned companies are absolutely kicking ass to s…

valve is nice but they're still taking a huge cut of revenue for doing extremely little work

I don't see the problem with that personally, since there's basically no restriction on how you distribute your games on the platform. It's not like iOS where you have 1 option.

People publishing games just have to do the math and see if the benefits justify the costs.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by curlicue »

MattRix wrote: post #169

Rider has a lot going for it, but I really can't stand the structure of JetBrains subscription. Why can't they just have a single monthly or annual price, rather than this absurd structure where the price gets cheaper over time, encouraging lock-in?

Because you get a lifetime license for the latest version available when you pay, so you're getting less value the second year you pay since you're just paying for updates.

You can choose to pay every 3 or 4 years rather than yearly if you don't want to be locked in, but it will come out as a similar cost overall

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by terminalbraid »

ferfumarma wrote: post #191
terminalbraid wrote: post #3

This is pretty huge all around, especially with Microsoft discontinuing Visual Studio for Mac. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022... I'd also like to note the great integration Rider has with Godot and Unity for game development.

What does Rider add to the Godot dev experience? (I'm not familiar with either ecosystem, but I thought I recall Godot having an IDE when I last booted it up to play with it).

The Godot IDE is mainly around GDscript and is very basic. This gives you all the good tooling you'd get from a professional IDE, has best in class refactoring tools, integrates well with stuff like debugging, has a huge plugin ecosystem, better out-of-the-box suggestions and code completion, integrates with AI tooling, etc.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by jchw »

p0w3n3d wrote: post #192

Regarding free non-commercial use in Jetbrains you need to accept that you'll get checked (not specified how, but I guess they will scrape your HDD? Or what? It’s also important to note that if you’re using a non-commercial license, you cannot opt out of the collection of anonymous usage statistics. This is similar to our Early Access Program (where statistics is opt-out) and in compliance with our Privacy Policy

If you are willing to trust their own documentation, there is documentation about what is sent with anonymous usage statistics in Jetbrains IDEA IDEs:

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/settings-usage-statistic...

That said, if you mean "checked" as in checking for compliance, I don't think anonymous usage statistics are for that. For that they would need to not be anonymous. If they could identify who was improperly using the community versions, it would break the pinky promise of anonymity. (And for the record I personally doubt they are secretly correlating anonymous usage statistics, but if they were, using them for license compliance would involve either revealing that they did this or at least parallel construction.)

That all said, I think everyone will just have to form their own opinion on whether to trust their statements and whether this is acceptable.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by tokinonagare »

andybak wrote: post #171
wokwokwok wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What fan boy nonsense is this? The VSC support for c# is miles behind visual studio. Rider isn’t as good either, but it’s certainly better than VSC. Are you heavily using typescript with a bit of c# or a really tiny code base? This comment is incomprehensible to me. Do you never refactor code? There are a lot of sophisticated things you can’t do with VSC. It’s a great editor; but not for c#. The benefit of using it i…

If Visual Studio has better support for C# than Rider, why does Resharper exist? Not trying to start an argument - I've never used Visual Studio with C# (I was a PyCharm user when I started learning Unity so Rider was an obvious choice) but I always assumed that Rider was better - because it was managing to survive as a paid product so it must have had an edge.

> If Visual Studio has better support for C# than Rider, why does Resharper exist?

I'm pretty sure Resharper existed before Rider. Also, the existence and utility of the plugin is a mystery to me. I tried it once and it adds so many attention disturbing behavior especially in the bottom bar that I disabled it immediately. None of its feature was every needed in the company I work, and the Rider crowd there don't seems to produce better code than those using VS.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by magic_hamster »

There is a lot of praise here for JetBrains. I love their products, but sadly they joined the devcontainer race way too late and the condition of their products does not allow for serious development with dev containers. Their Gateway application is still in beta, and it doesn't always work, but it's faring much better than their early access devcontainer IDEs which are in a sorry state.

I can't believe that this late in the game my team has no choice but to actually give up on jetbrains for some time. We tried our best to make it work with their products because we enjoy them dearly. But if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. VSCode has a mature, and most important functioning, devcontainer ecosystem.

Not sure if Rider even has devcontaier support but good for jetbrains for releasing a community edition.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by [deleted] »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #148
textlapse wrote: post #46

There are a few privately owned companies that amaze me: JetBrains, Valve among the top. Somehow they have a much better value/user and make reasonable decisions: counter intuitive to investors/shareholders but insanely intuitive to their users. I am sure the public market has made the general public reap the rewards of large companies (kudos!) but some of the privately owned companies are absolutely kicking ass to s…

I agree that private companies can be good and I use Steam a lot, but Valve sucks in other ways. Their community is awful and developers can have posts openly calling for their death or calling them racial slurs and Valve support will tell them they won't remove the posts. I don't mean they deny the support request, I mean a person will respond and say "Yeah manage your community better." This is despite the fact the…

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by kdnsndndj »

mattlondon wrote: post #153

Genuine question with an open mind: why would I use this and not vscode? I know people complain about lag in vscode but I have personally never experienced/noticed any. So with that in mind what does rider give that vscode cannot?

They are completely different products?

One is an IDE, the other is an editor. If you want an editor, of course you will not be happy if you use an IDE

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by johnfn »

kdnsndndj wrote: post #209
mattlondon wrote: post #153

Genuine question with an open mind: why would I use this and not vscode? I know people complain about lag in vscode but I have personally never experienced/noticed any. So with that in mind what does rider give that vscode cannot?

They are completely different products? One is an IDE, the other is an editor. If you want an editor, of course you will not be happy if you use an IDE

The claim that VSCode was just an editor seemed flimsy the day it was released. Now, it is absurd.
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