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Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#201

We need archives built on decentralized storage. Don't get me wrong, I really like and support the work Internet Archive is doing, but preserving history is too important to entrust it solely to singular entities, which means singular points of failure.

Ipfs

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#202

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I imagine they're referring to the fact that the leadership showed extremely bad judgement in deciding to pick a battle with the major publishing companies that everyone knew they would lose before it even began [0]. I don't think that justifies blaming the victim here, and from what I can see the attacker doesn't seem to be motivated by anything other than funsies, but I absolutely lost a lot of faith in their leade…

> there's too much for us to lose at this point Feeling entitled?

Only if you don't care about history

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#204

We need archives built on decentralized storage. Don't get me wrong, I really like and support the work Internet Archive is doing, but preserving history is too important to entrust it solely to singular entities, which means singular points of failure.

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Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#205
post #59

A genuine question to commenters asking to "put a grownup in charge of the thing" and saying that "Kahle shouldn't be running things": he built the thing, why exactly he can't run it the way he sees fit?

He is. But at the cost of the greater good. Most of us care mainly about the Wayback Machine and archiving webpages; not borrowing books still under copyright and fighting publishers.

> the greater good

(Hot Fuzz reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQzrR6nOkYg )

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#206
post #158

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The group that claimed to be responsible for the first hack was said to be Russian-based, anti-U.S., pro-Palestine, and their reasoning for the attack was because of IA's violation of copyright.... I think you should draw your own more informed conclusions, but it smells a lot like feds to me.

What do Palestine, Russia, and the U.S. have to do with the Internet Archive? The Internet Archive is a supremely boring target politically.

That's the point they're making. It's such a seeming non-sequitur that people are suspicious and coming up with fun theories.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#207

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You already can, they have torrents for everything.

Their torrents suck and IME don’t update to changes in the archive.

Aren't torrents terrible at handling updates in general? If you want to make a change to the data, or even just add our remove data, you have to create a new torrent and somehow get people to update their torrent and data as well.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine they're referring to the fact that the leadership showed extremely bad judgement in deciding to pick a battle with the major publishing companies that everyone knew they would lose before it even began [0]. I don't think that justifies blaming the victim here, and from what I can see the attacker doesn't seem to be motivated by anything other than funsies, but I absolutely lost a lot of faith in their leade…

> there's too much for us to lose at this point Feeling entitled?

"Us" means all of humankind for hopefully many generations to come. It's not about my personal entitlement, it's that the IA serves a vital role for humanity (one which they fought hard to make permissible).

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#209

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That's debatable. Most of their torrents are for things under copyright, though any other decentralized archive would have the same problem.

That’s a copyright problem. 99% of things made in the last 100 years fall under copyright.

and a good number of things that were going to pass into copyright were further extended to 2053.

Re: Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

#210
post #183
post #15

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We'll need to find even more people willing to expose themselves to legal threats and cyberattacks then.

I collect, archive, and host data. Haven't gotten any threats or attacks. Not one. The average r/selfhosted user hiding their personal OwnCloud behind the DDoS maffia seems more afraid than one needs to be even for hosting all sorts of things publicly. I guess this fearmongering comes from tech news about breaches and DDoS attacks on organisations, similar to regular news impacting your regular worldview regardless o…

Its not a problem until it suddenly is, and by the time it becomes a problem its too late. Its not fear mongering, its risk management and the laws are draconian and fail fundamental basis for a "rule of law", we have a "rule by law".
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