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Re: The Stallman Report

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Post by mikrotikker »

bitwize wrote: post #125
joshuajill wrote: post #75

GNU kind communication guidelines the report purports to be transphobic: "Please think about how to treat other participants with respect, especially when you disagree with them. For instance, call them by the names they use, and refer to them using words whose meanings (as you understand them) cover those participants' stated gender identities. Please also show tolerance and respect for people who do that using diff…

The "Kind Communication Guidelines" give too much wiggle room for misgendering. It is hate speech, and a form of psychological abuse, to misgender trans people when you should know better. Depending on jurisdiction, it may incur civil or criminal penalties as well. Again, there is a reason why the Contributor Covenant, itself written by a trans woman, is the gold standard for open source codes of conduct.

Usernames don't have genders

Re: The Stallman Report

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Post by infamouscow »

mikrotikker wrote: post #191
tomcam wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m thinking more this: > We have several uncorroborated testimonies of women, including minors, being overtly sexualized during this routine, some without consent. In the course of our research we discovered that one of these routines was recorded, in which Stallman brings a 13 year-old girl on stage and makes sexually suggestive remarks about her in front of a crowd at FKFT 2008 in Barcelona.

> uncorroborated testimonies > some without consent > In the course of our research we discovered that one of these routines was recorded Far out if they reach any harder they'll need a ladder and a safety harness!

Exactly! For $300 and a few hours of time, I could easily find a handful of people willing to feed this kind of narrative to any journalist looking for a hit piece. The fact that most people don't instinctively question the veracity of these claims just shows how staggeringly uncritical and poorly educated we've become as a society. Unless you're bound by specific legal obligations, there's no rule demanding that you tell the truth. Journalists are barely held to any standard of factual reporting because the bar is proving "actual malice".

And before anyone jumps to cry "fraud," let's be clear: fraud is obviously illegal, but the legal definition is specific and detailed.

Re: The Stallman Report

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Post by beanjuiceII »

carapace wrote: post #43

Character assassination by anonymous cowards. The Free Software movement has been completely routed. MS owns GitHub. The farmers fighting for the "right to repair" their tractors are the "front" of the "battle" for user empowerment. But sure let's beat the shit out of the dead horse that's actually a real live old man with cancer who wrote fucking Emacs, see if that helps?

its by this dude https://dmpwn.info/

Re: The Stallman Report

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Post by beanjuiceII »

stallman_report wrote: post #27
neptune22 wrote: post #8

This is really great work getting all of the evidence into one place. Really helpful, thanks. I really like the focus on the victims. I am a previous PhD student who worked under Marvin Minsky, and I do believe that there is no evidence that Minsky was present for any sexual misconduct, and some of the quotes about Minksy do not mention that there is no evidence of Minsky's sexual misconduct. I believe the quotes abo…

We reviewed our references to Minsky throughout the report and felt that we could indeed improve the presentation of the quotes which mention him, and we have done so. However, I will state just for the record here that our researchers have looked into the allegations regarding Minsky and do not feel comfortable exonerating him or standing up to defend his reputation, as it were -- we find the evidence plausible, but…

have any references about this guy ? https://dmpwn.info/

Re: The Stallman Report

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Post by beanjuiceII »

noname09 wrote: post #19

Honestly, it looks like a personal RMS hate page written by an autistic (or someone in a manic state) man. I can't say that someone who goes through years of mailing lists looking for evidence of RMS saying controversial things is sane. Besides that, the fact of expressing a controversial opinion is not a crime, and shouldn't (and can't) be punished. What is really important, is that the modern cancel culture (and th…

this guy ? https://dmpwn.info/

Re: The Stallman Report

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Post by [deleted] »

cassepipe wrote: post #14

Whether you find the people who want RMS to resign obnoxious or not, this is a very well documented and clear-headed collection of what they think (and convinced me) is wrong with the man

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Re: The Stallman Report

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Post by samatman »

stallman_report wrote: post #27
neptune22 wrote: post #8

This is really great work getting all of the evidence into one place. Really helpful, thanks. I really like the focus on the victims. I am a previous PhD student who worked under Marvin Minsky, and I do believe that there is no evidence that Minsky was present for any sexual misconduct, and some of the quotes about Minksy do not mention that there is no evidence of Minsky's sexual misconduct. I believe the quotes abo…

We reviewed our references to Minsky throughout the report and felt that we could indeed improve the presentation of the quotes which mention him, and we have done so. However, I will state just for the record here that our researchers have looked into the allegations regarding Minsky and do not feel comfortable exonerating him or standing up to defend his reputation, as it were -- we find the evidence plausible, but…

You didn't need to make a throwaway account, Drew DeVault.

We know you wrote it. We have the smoking gun. Gig's up.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41859793

Someone's reputation was tarnished beyond recovery by this act of attempted character assassination. It wasn't RMS.

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