John Wheeler saw the tear in reality

Post by ricksunny » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 8:43 PM UTC

n4r9 wrote: post #200

ricksunny wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it’s two separate physicists and two separate theories about different areas of physics. They're both touching on consciousness. Wheeler's participatory universe (least several paras of the article) & Penrose's (& coauthor's) microtubules. Penrose was (just days ago) on Theory of Everything talking about whether consciousness affects observation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPH-SzWF46w&t=83s (tl;dw: he doesn't…

In that video, Penrose explicitly claims that quantum mechanics "is wrong". He means that the equations of quantum mechanics are not sufficient to describe the universe. He thinks you need some additional mechanics to cause wave function collapse. Wheeler, on the other hand, does not claim that quantum mechanics is wrong or incomplete, but suggests an interpretation of the equations. So in my mind they are taking ver…

Post by Vermeulen » Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 2:21 PM UTC

excalibur wrote: post #14

Seriously, this article brings to mind the classic short story about a simulated universe: https://qntm.org/responsibility And also the wildly speculative conjecture that our universe will be retroactively created by a super intelligent AI in the precise manner necessary to facilitate its own existence, from which it follows that we exist for the express purpose of creating it. (If anybody knows the source I might ha…