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What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by carlosjobim »

n4r9 wrote: post #55
digitalengineer wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

inefficiency? It's part of the experience. I'm not in a restaurant or café to drink as fast as possible. I'm there to socialize as well. Waiting a bit is not a bottleneck, but a feature. (If I wanted speed, I'd take the drive-through).

Have to disagree with this. At a group meet-up where everyone arrives at different times and wants their order to come shortly after they do, a digital system is so much better. These type of meetups are quite common as a parent.

Here's a hint: Eating at a restaurant is not like eating in a school canteen. And it's not about stilling your hunger. You can eat in any order and pace that you prefer. So if people arrive at different times, you can share some starters while waiting for the other people to arrive. Then jump into some main courses when everybody is ready.

You're not supposed to arrive hungry to a restaurant, then you are doing it wrong. It's not about filling your belly.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by loa_in_ »

frereubu wrote: post #118
rapnie wrote: post #13

> Is this what the peak ordering experience looks like? Call me old-fashioned, but to me the peak experience is a paper menu to choose from, and a waiter that patiently takes the order. Far prefer that to everyone at the table fiddling on their phones in some weird-ass website or even god forbid custom app.

My main beef with these menus is that I can't see the entire menu on my phone screen, and end up scrolling up and down multiple times before I can decide what I want to order. With a paper menu my eyes can flick up and down much faster. It's like trying to edit spreadsheets on a phone - technically possible but a real pain in the arse.

I find it absolutely annoying that our phones with amazing pixel density limit the max zoom out for some reason. If I want 5x8 font on my 1080p phone screen why not let me?

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by tjbiddle »

rapnie wrote: post #13

> Is this what the peak ordering experience looks like? Call me old-fashioned, but to me the peak experience is a paper menu to choose from, and a waiter that patiently takes the order. Far prefer that to everyone at the table fiddling on their phones in some weird-ass website or even god forbid custom app.

Completely agree with you.

If a restaurant has a QR-code menu, I ask for a physical one.

If they don't have a physical one, I walk out.

I've done that many, many, many times.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by Wytwwww »

altacc wrote: post #103
golol wrote: post #86

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This seems less like a "manual for attack" and more like tweeting that your local storage unit rental never puts locks on their garages and gates and "anyone could just walk in and out".

To expand your analogy can you see the difference between: "A storage unit I know of never uses locks" and "The storage unit at 1234 Central Boulevard, San Andreas never uses locks, just wiggle the door a bit and it'll open." I think most people would acknowledge there's a big difference.

That's not the same though at all.. A closer analogy would be publicly announcing that "Company managing the storage lockers 1234 Central Boulevard, San Andreas is keeping all of them unlocked without telling their customers".

Which would still be wrong but you're implying that the business is the victim here when it's the complete opposite.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by austinjp »

hot_gril wrote: post #115
austinjp wrote: post #109

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There are plenty of comments disagreeing with you, but I'm fully in agreement. As for the arguments that QR codes are somehow a time-saver, they can be a real time waster . Find phone (not glued to my eyeballs), scan QR, swerve option to install app, wait for enormously bloated website to render badly, get frustrated trying to find what I want, get up to find a staff member to order something but with X instead of Y…

I don't understand the privacy part. If you order through a waiter, they still record what you ordered.

They may record what I order (although the cafes and restaurants I go to use pen and paper or just plain-old human memory) but that's it. Even if they enter my order into some system for analytics or what have you, there's no cookies, no tracking, no transparent pixels, etc.

Look, all these micro-arguments about the micro-invasions of privacy are 'bread and circuses' [0]. We've entirely lost sight of what it means to be a private citizen just going about our own lives without every nanosecond being tracked, without every damn interaction being an opportunity for someone to skim a cent. Any micro-invasion can be 'justified': it's more convenient, I don't care about a restaurant chain knowing what I've ordered, I don't want to talk to other people, etc. But they all add up.

Societies are increasingly unhappy, anxious, overweight, polarised. The gap between ultra-rich and regular citizens is widening. It all adds up.

Yeah.. old man, cloud. Whatever. The overall evidence is stark and obvious, it just hides in the tiny details.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by Wytwwww »

yas_hmaheshwari wrote: post #59

I know that Indian companies might not have a bug bounty program but you should get paid for finding such a big vulnerability And their CTO should take some blame for this. On the other hand, I agree with other comments that posting the whole financials of a company does not seem like a good idea PS: I really like your writing style. Subscribed your newsletter

> I agree with other comments that posting the whole financials of a company does not seem like a good idea

Probably. But IMHO it's the right/moral thing to do, posting/showing how to access their client data is of course hardly justifiable.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #198
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #180

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> Outlining situations with perfect service What are you even talking about? Are you implying that QR code solutions are optimal for shitty services? > where service becomes a bottle neck this is a textbook example of false dilemma. If service is the bottleneck making the ordering process faster will make things worse, not better. If anything if a place is slow to take orders, I know they'll be late on serving it I c…

> this is a textbook example of false dilemma. If service is the bottleneck making the ordering process faster will make things worse, not better. I’m sort of at a loss for words, I haven’t posed a dilemma, also do you think a server exclusively does one task and nothing else, or is it more fair to say they do multiple and eradicating one task frees up capacity for another? As I’ve said I’ve seen the efficiencies fir…

You simply don't know when you're wrong.

My wife owns a restaurant that has been her family business for over 70 years.

You clearly have never even been near one and think that you can fix problems that have nothing to do with tech with technical solutions, it's like believing that you can solve the fertility crisis with Tinder.

I recommend you to read something about τέχνη.

Good luck my dear friend, you'll need a lot of it.

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