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Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by theshrike79 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #28

This is precisely what would have happened if Apple had gotten away with their distributed image hashing scheme. Only in that case the falsely accused would be sent immediately through the justice system and forced to spend a fortune to defend themselves on the assumption that they were hiding the evidence.

Nope, Apple's system was based on a list of KNOWN CSAM hashes, not some AI algorithm.

Also it mathematically required multiple local hits before anything would've been sent to Apple.

And even at that point an actual human would've checked the image(s) (reduced quality versions) before any action is taken.

So even if you would've managed to trigger the system multiple times on someone's phone with hash collisions that actually are pictures of kittens, the most you've done is slightly inconvenience a low-paid image checker in a cheap call center.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by zero-sharp »

chmod775 wrote: post #138
zero-sharp wrote: post #6

I've always wondered about this. What happens if one of the big tech companies makes a mistake and closes your account? LinkedIn is pretty important nowadays when searching for work. Would you be able to make a new account? If not, that seems like a pretty big deal. Same concern with your email, or any of the other big services that we usually depend on. If I just suddenly lost my gmail, I would probably lose access…

> What happens if one of the big tech companies makes a mistake and closes your account? I think most people would be... just fine? Personally I'm from a culture that is very distrusting of those big platforms anyways, so people are even less likely to rely on them. If my mom lost access to her google account she would be fine, my dad wouldn't notice (he has been using his own e-mail domain forever), neither would my…

>If losing access to any one account is a big deal for you, that's more than a major technological literacy failure - it's a basic life planning failure. Do not overly rely on a single thing controlled by people you cannot trust. Even my grandmother would know better.

uhhuh. While it's a good idea to have backup plans and to exercise independence, people usually aren't accustomed to losing substantial parts of their livelihood for no reason and having no recourse. There's no reason to form a backup plan for a scenario that shouldn't occur. We depend on services all the time whose providers we can't control. That's modern life. What would a backup plan look like here for the average person? Do you think your average tech savvy person has taken those steps?

The intention with this post isn't to defend unpreparedness. But there is a point to be made that cutting somebody off, through some technical loophole, shouldn't be a thing. And companies know that. Every so often they get called out in public by somebody with a lot of traction and they correct the problem. So it's only a problem if it gains enough visibility. That's the system.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by lolinder »

dotancohen wrote: post #84
lolinder wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN will very happily brigade for little guys, too. Every few months there's a new "Stripe closed our account" thread that picks up a lot of steam. Every once in a while it gets Stripe's attention and they fix it. Most of the time the torches burn for a few hours until someone researches the author and figures out they were building a gambling platform or something else explicitly against Stripe's ToS and the thread q…

That's not HN helping. That's because some Stripe employees actively browse HN, especially those threads pertaining to their company, looking to help. Though some Googlers browse HN, I've never seen where they could actually help someone here - the company is too large and dispersed. Those Googlers are here for leasure, not business.

I agree it's not HN helping—I think those threads are one of the most toxic parts of this forum. As I said, most of the time HN gets out the pitchforks in support of someone who knows full well why they were banned.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by xtracto »

rnts08 wrote: post #149
bitcharmer wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But LinkedIn wasn't like that 10 years ago. It was what it was meant to be. To me it feels like TikTok culture infesting all types of social media. At this point LI is beyond saving but a serious competitor would have to be heavily moderated to stay clean which we all know won't happen.

Yes, LI 10-15 years ago was a decent site for professional networking, before it got too much like social media. Looking for work, get in touch with or keep in touch with people that you share professional interests with. I guess it wouldn't be technically challenging to create a platform for this, the problem would be to bring the right users and as you say, moderate the content to avoid what it has become today. Sh…

Linkedin when you actually ONLY could get introduced to a 2nd degree connection by a mutual contact introducing you both.

Before MS bought them, it was great. Now it's just a stupid Facebook clone with pathetic spam posts of people that are dying inside because they haven't found a job but oh my how much that have make them growth.

And now apparently it also has those vertical 10 second tiktoks like video "stories" or whatever they are called

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

romwell wrote: post #85
alexey-salmin wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A possibility of loosing access to a 20 years old Google account is quite disturbing. I know it's possible to setup a sync of Google drive to a local NAS, I wonder if the same can be done with Gmail archives. Then there's a problem of loosing access to all linked accounts on other services. What can be done about those, switching them to Proton mail.preemptively? Life without SSO is annoying.

> I wonder if the same can be done with Gmail archives. That's called "using an email client" to access email. The way it originally worked, you know, and still does[1]. I use Vivaldi browser, which has a built-in mail client[2]. You can use Mozilla Thunderbird[3], or (gasp) Outlook. All of them allow you to maintain a complete, offline, up-to-date copy of your mailbox, which you can export and back up if needs be. […

When my account was closed by an ISP, Thunderbird (unexpectedly for me) mirrored the lack of access to the IMAP folders and deleted all my local mail. Fortunately this was a temporary issue that I was able to recover from.

Apps like imap-backup (https://github.com/joeyates/imap-backup) allow retaining IMAP data.

In short, don't rely on TB to retain IMAP data, (like Dropbox) it is not a backup and IME will sync data losses, deleting local data if it is no longer accessible on the server.

Take care.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

zero-sharp wrote: post #6

I've always wondered about this. What happens if one of the big tech companies makes a mistake and closes your account? LinkedIn is pretty important nowadays when searching for work. Would you be able to make a new account? If not, that seems like a pretty big deal. Same concern with your email, or any of the other big services that we usually depend on. If I just suddenly lost my gmail, I would probably lose access…

We lost access to one of our phones numbers recently - moving it from Three (UK) to Smarty (a trading name of Three). No access for 3 weeks over which time I spent hours-and-hours contacting them.

So many things tied to our phone number, including banking authorisation (work, charities, and home), online account auth (2fa), contact from school, contact with family, ... it was an absolute nightmare. The single worst customer support experience of my life AFAIR.

In the UK there are two Ombudsman for such services but one says they won't help until 8 weeks after you report a problem to the company involved (and the other somehow says they won't help at all).

It's really given me resolve to, instead of simplifying and signing the family up to the same services, distributing suppliers to avoid us all being stuck without service at the same time.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by zero-sharp »

dgellow wrote: post #167
zero-sharp wrote: post #6

I've always wondered about this. What happens if one of the big tech companies makes a mistake and closes your account? LinkedIn is pretty important nowadays when searching for work. Would you be able to make a new account? If not, that seems like a pretty big deal. Same concern with your email, or any of the other big services that we usually depend on. If I just suddenly lost my gmail, I would probably lose access…

> LinkedIn is pretty important nowadays when searching for work. It is kind of expected to have a profile you can link companies to, but I didn’t know people were actually active and engaging in discussions on the platform. I only sign in every few years to update something, but are you all actively exchanging with others on LinkedIn as a way to find jobs? I thought it was accepted since >10 years the whole platform…

It is corporate noise. But I think it's a great way to find, and talk to, people with similar professional backgrounds. Or to stay in touch with people that you've worked with.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by lazide »

chillfox wrote: post #9
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People send each other porn on LinkedIn?

Based on the number of guys who think LinkedIn is a dating site I don't see why there wouldn't be people who think it's a porn sharing site.

The only thing not used as a dating site is dating sites.

Those are for prostitution. (Somewhat /s)

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by [deleted] »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #110
bitcharmer wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But LinkedIn wasn't like that 10 years ago. It was what it was meant to be. To me it feels like TikTok culture infesting all types of social media. At this point LI is beyond saving but a serious competitor would have to be heavily moderated to stay clean which we all know won't happen.

I absolutely cannot understand this perspective. I open LinkedIn to add somebody to my network, contact somebody, or look for a job/hire somebody, and for those things it’s really good. I don’t make any LinkedIn content, I don’t consume any of it, I don't struggle to ignore it entirely, and I don’t miss out on anything by doing so. Where exactly does it need to improve?

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Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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Post by Log_out_ »

bitcharmer wrote: post #101
lvncelot wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't disagree about the state of LinkedIn, but doesn't the content just come with the territory? In my experience, people who "network" for networking's sake the most are exactly the type of people who self-congratulate and humble brag, so you're bound to get exactly this type of content on a platform that's entirely networking-focused.

But LinkedIn wasn't like that 10 years ago. It was what it was meant to be. To me it feels like TikTok culture infesting all types of social media. At this point LI is beyond saving but a serious competitor would have to be heavily moderated to stay clean which we all know won't happen.

It would need to know what you are working on and bring you into contact with people whoveork on similar things and could mentor you or add real value to your work or private project.
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