Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

201–210 of 1001 posts

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#201

Post by egypturnash »

sk11001 wrote: post #79
souvlakee wrote: post #17

The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

We’re at a point where regular users already have everything they need, from any model in the past few years.

I have everything I need with a 5s. The only thing making me ponder updates is shit like “hi the new T-mobile app requires a newer version of iOS than is available for your phone”. Web still works though.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#202

Post by afavour »

panarky wrote: post #158
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

> With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming.

None of that was coming from Apple, though. I don't think they can be held responsible for hype that gets put on them.

IMO these are all solid moves into AI integration without getting carried away by hype and doing things that will have very middling results.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#204

Post by swyx »

callalex wrote: post #169
schmidtleonard wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is good but... all I wanted for Christmas was anti-spam that didn't suck donkey balls. Sigh.

They don’t prevent spam abuse through their app push notifications, and don’t even offer a way to report bad behavior. They are pro-spam.

i undersatnd i might come across as an apple shill/fanboi here but just pointing out that its fairly easy to punish any abusive app by killing their notifs and apple does sometimes make it easy to do that by letting u go straight to settings to kill the notif (i'm not conscious of when it does that but i think it does?)

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#205

Post by ricardobeat »

ericwood wrote: post #139
rty32 wrote: post #105

> “Powered by the faster, more efficient A18 Pro chip and built for Apple Intelligence, iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are the most advanced iPhone models we’ve ever made,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. Thanks Greg, that's very helpful information.

I've always wondered about the "most advanced ____ we've ever made" phrase, it seems like almost like a silly tongue in cheek inside joke at this point. Does it date back to Jobs? They've used that exact turn of phrase for every product iteration as long as I can remember but I can't find any info on its origin. Maybe I'm hallucinating this?

It's just going to be true forever.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#206

Post by yoyoyo1122 »

rkagerer wrote: post #193
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

> Touch ID? I missed the memo - I thought Touch ID was abandoned in favor of Face ID? Did they bring it back on the latest models? Can you use it again instead of Face ID, and is it as instant as it was on the older Apple phones?

TouchID is still on iPad Air and Mini.

Would love to have both! FaceID never works for me when I'm laying on my side in bed.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#207

Post by unethical_ban »

pistolpeteDK wrote: post #20

Interesting to see how they're marketing increasingly minor improvements as major breakthroughs. 16 Pro: Better camera, more zoom, dedicated camera button… isn’t that it? WiFi 7, faster ray tracing, USB-C/USB 3? Hard to imagine many people really need that. Have we witnessed peak Apple? Apple Watch: minimal updates. AirPods Max: new color. AirPods: some minor tweaks.

I really don't know what people expect. That Apple won't market a product? That there will be a fivefold increase in performance each year?

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#208

Post by paxys »

rkagerer wrote: post #193
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

> Touch ID? I missed the memo - I thought Touch ID was abandoned in favor of Face ID? Did they bring it back on the latest models? Can you use it again instead of Face ID, and is it as instant as it was on the older Apple phones?

It isn't abandoned. The side button on the iPad Air for example is a touch ID sensor. They just don't want to bring it to iPhone for some reason. Plus all other high-end phones from competing manufacturers have touch sensors under the screen now.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#209

Post by tsunamifury »

swyx wrote: post #189
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

1) i am as ready to shit on apple and siri as the next guy, but imo the HN cynicism is overbearing here. apple isnt building to impress internet neckbeards like us. they are building for the normies. features they understand intuitively and cannot fuck up. maybe wait til it gets in the normies hands to judge. ~none of us here know what its like to work on a hardware/software platform for >1 billion? people. 2) i actu…

Highly doubt normies give a crap about any of this.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#210

Post by callalex »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #24

So did they just give up on Blood-Oxygen sensing on the Watch? Thought it might be a good time to update my Watch 6 (black titanium) to a 10, since they brought back the black titanium, but they just have no answer for the blood-oxygen lawsuit?

It’s been really crappy the entire time it existed, so it’s not a big loss. I have my watch on quite snugly (but not too tight), and fairly high on my wrist, and the stupid thing only takes maybe 3-5 measurements per DAY. Also, it cannot take measurements while exercising, or even moving.
Post reply on HN