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Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by runjake »

unshavedyak wrote: post #193
dr_kiszonka wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand features like sleep apnea monitoring on a device with an "all-day, 18-hour battery life," unless they're expecting people to get one watch for the day and another one for the night.

I wear my watch all day and night, charge it for 30mim while I sip coffee. I don’t get the issues people have around battery life. Mine is on me almost 24 hours a day and a daily charge. Two watches seems dramatic for a single 30m charge a day. Edit: note on charge, it’s probably more, but it’s just while I sip my coffee. I never pay attention to it despite the claims of battery life woes.

Series 7 here. I do <= 30 minutes a day twice -- usually closer to 20 minutes at a time, on the Apple Watch fast charger plugged into an Apple 20W power adapter. Otherwise, I wear the Watch 23.25-ish/7 and never run out of battery.

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Post by mrcwinn »

Bummer not to see a more meaningful Ultra 2 update. I would have at least considered it. I recently received the new Garmin Fenix 8 Sapphire and, while expensive, it is really a stunning piece of hardware. Perhaps it's not quite as well crafted as the Ultra, but it certainly is close and has a better battery and, in my mind, better software specifically for people more serious about fitness. (In my case, running ultras.)

What's neat about the Ultra is the idea of heading out for a run with no phone and your podcasts are still synced. "Running (mostly) free." Half the time, though, I start my run and realize the content isn't really there because it can only sync on the charger with more than 50% battery.

It's all to say, Apple products are tough because they arrive to markets late and then self-impose one- or two-year update cycles. It's SO SLOW getting to parity with existing solutions.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by hedgehog »

mulderc wrote: post #129
dr_kiszonka wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand features like sleep apnea monitoring on a device with an "all-day, 18-hour battery life," unless they're expecting people to get one watch for the day and another one for the night.

I wear my Apple Watch all the time, even when I'm sleeping. I pretty much just charge it when I'm in the shower or getting ready in the morning. It charges super fast, and I've found that having a regular charging routine is actually better for these gadgets. Funny enough, watches with longer battery life can mess up your charging habits. I had this problem with my old Pebble watch. Yeah, the battery lasted longer, b…

I don't mind charging my watch daily when I go to my desk to do e-mail, I just want the watch to be handle skipping that for a few days due to travel or a weekend or whatever.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by unshavedyak »

crooked-v wrote: post #78

Calling an 18-hour battery life 'all day' still feels like at best borderline fraud to me.

I wear it 23.25+~ hours a day and charge it while i drink coffee in the morning (probably 30-45m on average, while i sit at my desk). I wear it all day, and while i sleep for sleep tracking.

I get annoyed when they say 18h and people freak out.. i'm not sure what they're testing vs my daily usage but it doesn't feel the same. I assume it's like 18h with a ton of screen-on time?

Either way i wouldn't wear a watch that i had to charge for 6 hours a day, and the Apple Watch is definitely not that. Hasn't been that for at least as many generations as i've owned.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by tonymet »

nine_zeros wrote: post #194
tonymet wrote: post #164

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i've heard plenty of commercials and still don't quite get it. Why whoop?

> Why whoop? - I want a health and fitness tracker. - I don't want to be locked into an Apple/Google ecosystem. - I don't want screens and notifications.

i see yeah that's about what I gathered from their commercials.

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Post by npunt »

tiltowait wrote: post #109
hedgehog wrote: post #100

All that and no improvement to battery life. I've been wearing an Apple Watch for a few years, the data collection is good but the abysmal battery life and associated charge management is a real downer. I'm Apple ecosystem for almost everything but the battery and touch sensitivity issues are enough to get me to do the work to go to a different platform for health data.

At this point, it’s pretty clear Apple targets a specific battery life (18 hours) and builds the techs around that. As a result, I don’t think we will get an improvement in that area anytime soon. However, it does look like they improved the charging story—something like 80% in 30 minutes? Not bad.

Yep they do this for all their platforms, set a battery target based on ~90%tile daily usage of particular form factor (e.g. 18hr watch/iphone, 10-12hr macbook/ipad) and then let ID & chip teams do whatever they want to hit that. The value add of every additional minute/hour of battery life drops off from there because daily loops for charging are realistically what everyone will do, and there's more value add in other places like making things thinner, faster, or do something new.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by tonymet »

orev wrote: post #155
tonymet wrote: post #148

Nobody wants a thinner watch, everyone wants more battery life.

Both the regular Watch and the Ultra are very much on the side of “only just bearable” regarding their thickness. They do not fit very well for anyone wearing button-down shirts with buttoned sleeve cuffs. Thinner is definitely welcomed.

that's an interesting concern. would you still make the tradeoff for 30% battery ?

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by anonymousiam »

nextos wrote: post #32

I really wish they made it independent of the iPhone. I think for people that only use smartphones occasionally, it'd be ideal to have just a watch and a desktop/laptop. It'd also be a great move by Apple towards reducing distractions of its users. Watches can be much less intrusive than phones.

I 100% agree, and this is the only reason that I have not purchased one. I've got an Android phone and an iPad pro (with active eSIM). There is no technical reason for Apple to not allow me to "tether" to my iPad, or even any reason to require me to have another device in order to have/use all the features of the watch. It's purely a marketing decision, so I will continue to pass on the Apple Watch until they untether it, or let me access all features with my iPad.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

hedgehog wrote: post #203
mulderc wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wear my Apple Watch all the time, even when I'm sleeping. I pretty much just charge it when I'm in the shower or getting ready in the morning. It charges super fast, and I've found that having a regular charging routine is actually better for these gadgets. Funny enough, watches with longer battery life can mess up your charging habits. I had this problem with my old Pebble watch. Yeah, the battery lasted longer, b…

I don't mind charging my watch daily when I go to my desk to do e-mail, I just want the watch to be handle skipping that for a few days due to travel or a weekend or whatever.

I mean it's literally a few minutes on a charger to go from 5% battery to 60%. Would it be more convenient if it went longer? Sure, but as it stands, if you carry a watch charger in your bag, like... even the most minuscule time on a USB port will have it ready to roll.

I've got an SE at current (had a 4 before it finally keeled over, and this one has essentially identical features and was readily available) and I just don't get the battery griping. Mine only uses a scant 70% ish of it's available capacity. I wear it every day while sleeping and to/from work, then come home and toss it on the charger till bed time.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by outofpaper »

51Cards wrote: post #154
mulderc wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wear my Apple Watch all the time, even when I'm sleeping. I pretty much just charge it when I'm in the shower or getting ready in the morning. It charges super fast, and I've found that having a regular charging routine is actually better for these gadgets. Funny enough, watches with longer battery life can mess up your charging habits. I had this problem with my old Pebble watch. Yeah, the battery lasted longer, b…

A personal habit thing perhaps? My Pebble Time is still going strong but I religiously charge it every couple days (around 60%)... as you mentioned, while I showered. Before the most recent battery change I was down to about 48 hours on a charge. I do love taking weekend camping trips and not needing to take a charger. I have tried a couple other smart watches but I keep going back to my Pebble as it does all I care…

Time Steel here n exactly the same boat as you. How the world upgraded to a worse battery experience is beyond me. All I want is a watch that tells the time for days and it's nice to have smart features.
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