Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like if it’s technically possible, it will happen, and we can’t stop technological progress. In fact, you and I are probably profiting from that progress. Hard to ask a guy to do something that goes against his paycheck. Even if we vote politically “correct,” whomever that may be, what are you and I voting for with our wallets?
> Seems like if it’s technically possible, it will happen, and we can’t stop technological progress. ‘The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread p…
Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
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#202Creepy stuff. Maybe we ought not to constantly record everything happening around us all the time.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does that have to do with this article? The police are getting warrants for the video.
They aren’t getting warrants to tow the vehicles. They have no right to seize private property, especially the private property of someone not even involved with the crime in question. And what if the Tesla owner, as is their right or at least should be, refuses to release the video footage? How long do the police keep the illegally seized vehicle while the owner sorts out the seizure before the courts and at what pe…
Um, FTA:
> “Based on this information,” Godchaux wrote, “I respectfully request that a warrant is authorized to seize this vehicle from the La Quinta Inn parking lot so this vehicle’s surveillance footage may be searched via an additional search warrant at a secure location.”
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#204Creepy stuff. Maybe we ought not to constantly record everything happening around us all the time.
I Should be able to FOIA-LiveStream #OfficerBadge_Num
For #1  Rights? Maybe #2
#If Warrant granted, then enable FOIA-Cam_Footage = 1
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#205Genuine question: What is stopping some small percent of drivers from installing cameras and using ML to identify cars driving dangerously (e.g. speeding, running reds, changing multiple lanes at once, etc.), and when their license plate is identifiable, finding and informing their insurance company? If even a small subset of users did this, and insurers did something with this information, it would substantially dis…
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#206Creepy stuff. Maybe we ought not to constantly record everything happening around us all the time.
Why? Bodycams are an unalloyed good, and have deeper privacy implications.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Bodycams are an unalloyed good, and have deeper privacy implications.
With proper checks and balances in a civilian government, sure. The problem is when private companies help police departments do a runaround constitutional protections. Users have no sovereignty over their data (so to speak).
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If it’s my outdoor cameras and it pertains to a crime that happened just outside my home, they can have the footage. A very practical contribution I can make to my neighborhoods safety
So if the camera is in your car you are ok with them towing it away to pull the footage if they can't get in touch with you right away leaving you without a car? What if while looking at your footage for a crime outside your home (not related to you or your property) they see you doing something that could constitute a charge should they be able to share you for it as well? If someone saw you out in front of your hou…
I think these hypotheticals are starting to blur different concepts and questions, namely the distinction between:
1. Generic request
2. Subpeona
3. Warrant (reasonable)
4. Warrant (stupid/crazy/evil)
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I suspect OP is mainly thinking of (1) and (2), where they get a phone call or letter and they say: "Sure! Here's a link to the video file."
I would also guess OP might be okay with (3) where an officer came to their door and said "I need watch you copy time-range X-Y of your front door footage onto this USB stick I brought", or even "I need to take your entire SD card for a few months" if the footage seems very important.
In contrast, I don't think OP is supporting the idea that police can get a warrant to rip the camera out of the wall and break down their door and seize all their electronics.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Seems like if it’s technically possible, it will happen, and we can’t stop technological progress. ‘The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread p…
Sounds like a unabomber quote?