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Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

#201

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I did NOT violate the law. How come he is deleting the VPN apps on my phone??? That I need to remote to my overseas job??? How come I I'm now banned from reading what Zelensky, Kasparov, Yann LeCun, and thousands of others world leaders have to say? How come my neighbor, who makes a honest living through X-Twitter, has now lost her job?

> How come I I'm now banned from reading what Zelensky, Kasparov, Yann LeCun, and thousands of others world leaders have to say? > How come my neighbor, who makes a honest living through X-Twitter, has now lost her job? Because the other party did violate the law. Unfortunately, Twitter got taken over by an international ideologue who likes to pick fights, and you and your neighbor are suffering the consequences of t…

> Twitter got taken over by an international ideologue

Twitter was bought from ideologues by someone who opened it up to other ideologies. While this may have increased the absolute ideological load on the platform it actually decreased the effective ideological charge since opposite sides cancel out each other, pulling the balance towards the centre where it used to tilt heavily towards a single side.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #182

This is a very, very sad day for the Internet. Unfortunately, you can expect that every app and every platform will get localized and blocking will be normalized. Soon TikTok will be blocked in the USA. I expect this to serve as an example and an avalanche to follow across the globe. Blocking a platform for alleged crimes committed the by operator or participants is a punishment for all the users. It’s ridiculous but…

In this case was X not explicitly asked to remove the illegal content? They could have simply complied with the local law and avoided this outcome. With their hardcore engineers I’m sure they could have come up with a region-locked solution.

They already have regional blocking, they have been blocking political tweets and accounts in Turkey upon the request of the Turkish government since years now.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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For anyone curious: Proton VPN Express VPN NordVPN Surfshark, TOTALVPN Atlas VPN Bitdefender VPN There are some pretty well known VPNs that are NOT on that list. Private Internet Access (PIA) for example is absent. Sure, it's used more for torrenting than anything else, but it's one of the most popular VPNs. I thought maybe PIA just doesn't operate in Brazil, but they actually have a specific page dedicated to it: ht…

The listed VPNs are just examples. The order to take down VPN apps affects every VPN provider.

F-droid might be a solution. ProtonVPN, possibly others can be installed.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

#204

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I did NOT violate the law. How come he is deleting the VPN apps on my phone??? That I need to remote to my overseas job??? How come I I'm now banned from reading what Zelensky, Kasparov, Yann LeCun, and thousands of others world leaders have to say? How come my neighbor, who makes a honest living through X-Twitter, has now lost her job?

They can't and won't delete any apps from your phone, but the apps would be gone from the stores, which does not make it much less of a bullshit. Restricting access to X makes sense: the platform has removed themselves from the country, making it impossible to resolve legal and financial disputes in Brazil, so it makes sense they are not allowed to operate in the country anymore. Then again, punishing users that acce…

> They can't and won't delete any apps from your phone

Google can definitely install/delete apps from your phone remotely using Play Store.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #183

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Right. The issue is not that Musk is putting his finger on the scale for the political right per se--it's his site and he has the right to do that. The issue is that he claims to be supporting "free speech" while doing so. To my knowledge, nobody at Twitter prior to Musk's takeover claimed the site was for "free speech".

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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"People who use VPN to access X will be subject to daily fines of US$8,900" Edit: Thanks for this user https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41404325 for posting the court order and bringing this new information: Apple and Google must remove all VPN apps from their stores! Apple and Google must DELETE all VPN apps already installed on users' phones!!! https://apnews.com/article/brazil-musk-x-suspended-de-moraes...

Wow. The VPN piece of this ought to be the nut graf. Wild overreach.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #145

The ironic effect of this ludicrous behavior and judgement by this crazy Brazilian judge will be that more people will flock to X. This will be the Streisand effect on steroids.

Quite the claim and hyperbole. I’m fairly certain the exact opposite will happen because most people are not tech savvy and will not bother to circumvent the blocks in place. Some local alternatives will pop up and they’ll use that instead. Twitter is also no longer the town hall of the internet, or whatever people were calling it.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #131

Well this is fun. Nice to see a government with some teeth for once instead of bowing to the whims of every multibillion mega corporation or agitated billionaire.

I miss the days when religious zealots like you were against sex or whatever

I’m neither religious nor against sex or whatever nonsense you’re talking about. I’m for law and order, and for suppressing bad actors in society.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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This has been a bad week for Democracy/freedom of speech

I find the conflation of democracy and freedom of speech strange. They are entirely different things.

The absence of one always leads to the absence of the other in the long run. The USSR constitution is one of many such documents by authoritarian nations that guarantee freedom of speech in considerable detail.
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