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Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by remram »

rglullis wrote: post #179
remram wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with Lemmy is that subreddits ("communities") are tied to a specific instance. So basically every instance has its own separate c/linux, c/funny, c/technology, c/anime, etc. This makes it really hard to use.

This is absolutely not true. As long as your instance is federating properly, you can follow communities regardless of where they are rooted. If your problem is in discovering the "canonical" community in case there are duplicates, then I'd invite you to take a look at https://fediverser.network

Being able to "follow communities regardless of where they are rooted" just means that I can follow each one of the dozens of c/linux, c/opensource, c/funny. Each with their separate comment threads on similar submissions. Why would I want to do that?

Sure, you can pick a random one like fediverser.network apparently does. Looking at one line from the list, I see that r/manga points to ani.social/c/manga which has 561 subscribers, when lemmy.ml/c/manga has 3,480. What?

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

mubu wrote: post #12

Reddit was my favorite website growing up. I'd discover new interesting subs, read random posts and comments. The frontpage was somewhat interesting too, but now it feels like a bot fest and propaganda machine. I still use Reddit but way less than I used to before, and I no longer use it for fun but just to read niche tech subs. I refuse to use the official mobile app. I've always used Baconreader and then Relay on A…

Lemmy is pretty good but still needs to grow in terms of active communities for any topic the way Reddit is. Still a worthwhile project and probably the most likely dominant alternative to Reddit

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by insin »

bambax wrote: post #69

> Then I’ve discovered that you could get the whole page in JSON format by adding .json to the end of the URL. That was my big aha moment. This is actually still working! Trying on one of the top posts right now, if you change https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1ezq3po/asked_for_my... to https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1ezq3po/asked_for_my... you get all comments as json, with no need for authentication.…

It still supports JSONP [1] too, a little React app I haven't touched for 9 years which used it [2] is still chugging along

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/cxh3a/we_just_...

[2] http://insin.github.io/just-dadjokes/

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by nucleardog »

jen20 wrote: post #193
latexr wrote: post #97

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> I think that's well below the threshold people would care. People don’t even pay 0.99$ for apps they use all day every day, opting instead to suffer through ads and have their batteries drained. There’s no chance they’d pay 0.01$ per message . For the vast majority, there are two price points: free and not free. The psychological difference between free and 0.01$ is magnitudes larger than the difference between 0.0…

This is largely because of payment friction: is some scammy site going to manage its own subscription and call to make me cancel? Do I accidentally sign up to some dumb minimum term etc.

I don’t think I agree.

Something that is free is an unlimited resource. Something which costs even $0.01 is a limited resource (even if the limit is very high).

People naturally deal with limited resources different than unlimited. If it’s unlimited, each usage requires no further consideration. If it’s limited, each usage requires evaluating whether to spend dollars/credits/capacity on it.

I use a paid search engine. I paid extra for the “unlimited” option even though I should have fallen well under a lower tier. It wasn’t because of payment friction. (I was already paying a monthly fee, the only difference was the amount.) I paid the extra because as soon as this transitioned from unlimited to limited, I needed to keep a mental accounting of every usage. I needed to consider if each usage was worth buying.

If you give me a sheet of stickers for free I will struggle to stick them on anything. They are, by their nature as a physical thing, a limited resource. Payment doesn’t matter because they were free. What matters is I can run out so I need to ensure I’m making the best use of a limited resource.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by nucleardog »

firesteelrain wrote: post #116
satvikpendem wrote: post #35

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It's not just the app, the content itself has regressed. Where previously many subs actually had content related to their name, now it's 90% American political content. Evert r/pics is not immune. It's not just the posts, the comments too have political stances in them too, for many posts even unrelated to politics. It's tiring to read.

It is sad. I don’t browse Popular anymore and stick to the subreddits I care about which aren’t political. Even if you run across a “news” subreddit and comment on something that doesn’t seem Left, you will get banned right now. It’s very toxic. Best to stay away from Popular

I’m kinda confused by this.

You’re saying that you look explicitly for things that conform to your political views, comment things with your political views, then get banned?

Do you have a link to an example?

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by rglullis »

remram wrote: post #201
rglullis wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is absolutely not true. As long as your instance is federating properly, you can follow communities regardless of where they are rooted. If your problem is in discovering the "canonical" community in case there are duplicates, then I'd invite you to take a look at https://fediverser.network

Being able to "follow communities regardless of where they are rooted" just means that I can follow each one of the dozens of c/linux, c/opensource, c/funny. Each with their separate comment threads on similar submissions. Why would I want to do that? Sure, you can pick a random one like fediverser.network apparently does. Looking at one line from the list, I see that r/manga points to ani.social/c/manga which has 56…

Because number of subscribers does not mean activity momentum, and recommendations for communities on topic-specific instances are preferred over communities on the "larger" instances.

Lemmy.ml was the first instance, so naturally many people created communities there before. This does not mean that it's still where the anime fans want to congregate. The admins of lemmy.ml also said that they want to promote decentralization so they want as few communities there as possible.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by rglullis »

jen20 wrote: post #195
rglullis wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant spam as shorthand for "bulk send of messages of similar content". Cheap to produce and to send. If bots paid by some government count as spam, then we should also say the same about sponsored content or PR releases. Anyway, my point is that charging for access to a network where access is already open is good enough for a filter to avoid spam originating from your node. Spammers are not going to be interested…

I classify both sponsored content and PR-speak as spam, personally.

Should we start complaining about HN's "spam problem" because of all the "Launch HN" posts? And what about YC companies that have job ads pushed to the top of the frontpage?

Hell, I don't even have to be a complete cynic to make the argument that basically any news piece today only gets to be written if it serves the economic interests of its publisher. That is valid from the NYT and Washington Post to an indie game developer talking about their project on Mastodon.

If everything is "spam", then there is no ham. If there is no ham, there is no way to build an classifier. If there is no way to build a classifier, then what is the problem we are trying to solve in the first place?

Bots spreading misinformation are bad and a problem on Twitter/Facebook/TikTok, sure. But the reason that an entrance fee does not solve this problem is because these networks are built on the idea of controlling what content people get to see. On the "open social web", people are in charge, there is no "algorithm" and manipulation becomes a lot harder.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by Figs »

remram wrote: post #201
rglullis wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is absolutely not true. As long as your instance is federating properly, you can follow communities regardless of where they are rooted. If your problem is in discovering the "canonical" community in case there are duplicates, then I'd invite you to take a look at https://fediverser.network

Being able to "follow communities regardless of where they are rooted" just means that I can follow each one of the dozens of c/linux, c/opensource, c/funny. Each with their separate comment threads on similar submissions. Why would I want to do that? Sure, you can pick a random one like fediverser.network apparently does. Looking at one line from the list, I see that r/manga points to ani.social/c/manga which has 56…

> Why would I want to do that?

Differences in policy. There are wildly different ideas about what is and isn't acceptable.

> Sure, you can pick a random one like fediverser.network apparently does. Looking at one line from the list, I see that r/manga points to ani.social/c/manga which has 561 subscribers, when lemmy.ml/c/manga has 3,480. What?

That's not random. There was drama. The lemmy.ml admins are hostile to a lot of anime-related content and drove off most of the community that was accumulating there last year. ani.social is where the active, non-tankie communities are now. It's run with what seem like fairly reasonable policies and actually welcomes the subject matter. If you were relatively happy with the handling of anime-related content on reddit a few years ago then the communities on ani.social are probably what you're looking for; it's a good recommendation.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by latexr »

jen20 wrote: post #193
latexr wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think that's well below the threshold people would care. People don’t even pay 0.99$ for apps they use all day every day, opting instead to suffer through ads and have their batteries drained. There’s no chance they’d pay 0.01$ per message . For the vast majority, there are two price points: free and not free. The psychological difference between free and 0.01$ is magnitudes larger than the difference between 0.0…

This is largely because of payment friction: is some scammy site going to manage its own subscription and call to make me cancel? Do I accidentally sign up to some dumb minimum term etc.

It is not. This happens with the App Store, which is as low friction as you can get and is not a scammy site.
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