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Re: Zed AI

#201

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

If something is "so close," probably just use it.

Re: Zed AI

#202

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

What does “native GUI” mean?

Not electron

Re: Zed AI

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post #140

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

> I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. What would that be for each OS? Linux: Kate (at least if using KDE; which one would it be for GTK / Gnome?) macOS: TextMate? Windows: Notepad++?

For GNOME, the project's native text editor is: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-text-editor

It is significantly less featureful than Kate or your other apps though.

Re: Zed AI

#204
post #197

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I would like us as an industry to promote paying for things we use. Crazy idea, I know. Open source is great and fun and an incredible force multiplier for the world, but when you want to do this stuff for a living, you have to charge money for it somehow, and if you're a software business, and not just software adjacent, it means charging for software.

Pay-for closed-source is profitable for about a week. Then some asshole offers a shittier but free facsimile and community contributions render it good enough to kill the original.

I think we're all pretty familiar with this cycle, but there do exist durable products that don't succumb to this issue within reason and the burden rests on the original authors to find ways to create themselves a moat like any other business.

Re: Zed AI

#205

As I’ve said in yesterday’s thread[0], contrary to many others I find the AI integration in Zed to be extremely smooth and pleasant to use, so I’m happy they’re doubling down on this. However, personally, I prefer to have it configured to talk directly to Anthropic, to limit the number of intermediaries seeing my code, but in general I can see myself using this in the future. More importantly, I’m happy that they mig…

Also, I know some people say “just let me pay for the editor” but I don’t think that’s actually a viable path. The editor is open-source, and it being open-source is great. Others can contribute, it generally helps adoption, it will probably help with getting people to author plugins, and it means if they go in an undesirable way, the community will be able to fork. So without making it non-open-source, they’d need t…

Leave it open source exactly as it is now, do not put convenient downloadable binaries up on Github. Allow me to either compile it myself or pay for the binaries?

There must be some other way to monetize open source.

Re: Zed AI

#206
post #171

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> If it did not then I dont see how looking up with AI can be worse Looking up with AI is worse because its WRONG a lot more. Random rabbit holes, misdirection. Stuff that SOUNDS right but is not. It takes a lot of time and energy to discern the wheat from the chaff. Sure you can find misleading or outdated blogposts or forum discussions with a google search but the information is far more grounded in correctness the…

This is my experience with trying to use AI for coding tasks too. I've had back-and-forths with AI that involve me trying to get it to fix things to get a final working function, but since it doesn't actually understand the code, it fails to implement the fixes correctly. Meanwhile, the stuff you find through a traditional web search tends to either be from a blog post where someone is posting actual working code sni…

why do people pretend that google search is straight forward

> the stuff you find through a traditional web search tends to either be from a blog post

Is that so? Most of my hits have been stack overflow and github issues, where there are false positives, same problem to AI hallucination

Re: Zed AI

#207
post #120

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Did Google make you less productive when looking up about code? If it did not then I dont see how looking up with AI can be worse.

What’s the point of this argument? If the user you’re replying to has been on this site, they’ve probably seen this counterpoint before. “Aha!” They say, “I only realized my folly after the 25th time someone pointed out googling also takes time!” Maybe there’s some interesting difference in experiences that shouldn’t just be dismissed.

What’s the point of this argument? Maybe I have heard people bashing AI... 26 times?

Re: Zed AI

#208

Hey Zed team, just one little nitpick about the page. I love the keyboard shortcuts at the top for the download page and login. However, when I try to Ctrl-L and select the url, it triggers the login page shortcut. Brave Browser Windows 10

Thanks for the report, this should be fixed now!

Re: Zed AI

#209
post #180
post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. What would that be for each OS? Linux: Kate (at least if using KDE; which one would it be for GTK / Gnome?) macOS: TextMate? Windows: Notepad++?

macOS: BBEdit now and forever.

BBEdit Doesn’t Suck!

Re: Zed AI

#210

I like the idea of Zed, and I recently went editor hopping. I installed Zed but was immediately hit with "your gpu is not supported/ will run incredibly slow" message. Gah...

In my case this pointed out a problem with my NVIDA drivers that I didn’t know about. Once I fixed that issue my whole KDE system ran much faster and allowed Zed to run
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