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Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Post by transfire »

msephton wrote: post #177
gedy wrote: post #2

One cool feature that I didn’t see described very well here is Cosmic allows you to group windows in tabs, but the tabs can be different applications. Kind of an interesting idea that the OS/window manager is what should be responsible for tab support, not each application.

This reminds me of a discussion on Twitter about this. Macintosh System 7 that had an app called Stapler, early Mac OS X had one called LaunchList both contained aliases to apps and documents. So I see the benefit of the OS managing this grouping.

Any Linux app like this?

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Post by ntnsndr »

petabyt wrote: post #85

Looks like all the UIs are made with iced, a new UI library. My question, is this missing all the accessibility features found in uikits like Gtk and Qt? Does each app respect my system theme?

My understanding is accessibility features are in the works before the full release

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Post by nosbo »

sureglymop wrote: post #164

I am sad that they discontinued their Pop Shell gnome extension. I use GNOME but with the animations completely turned off. That combined with the tiling shell feels really snappy and good. I am really considering forking that extension and also visually improving it a little (not a fan of their design language, though I like the modern adwaita style of gtk/gnome apps).

I'm hoping a community continues the work there.

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Post by nosbo »

duped wrote: post #77

A lot of negative takes here. My understanding is that the point of developing cosmic is to enable distros and users to address UI issues in the first place, since GNOME is too limiting.

Yeah I'm surprised. On other linux forums/sites I frequent there is a lot more positivity.

I'm excited to see where it goes.

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Post by jklinger410 »

culebron21 wrote: post #196
jklinger410 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is the claim that any DE with a top bar and launcher icons looks like MATE? Or because you can customize MATE, that it's just like every other DE? Makes no sense.

The claim is Mate can do almost everything this DE does, so switching to yet another wannabe Mac DE isn't worth the hassle. (I'd be interested had they broke away from this ubiquitous Mac mimicry.)

Ah so I guess XFCE, KDE, and MATE are all just pretty much the same DE then.

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Post by loa_in_ »

jklinger410 wrote: post #205
culebron21 wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The claim is Mate can do almost everything this DE does, so switching to yet another wannabe Mac DE isn't worth the hassle. (I'd be interested had they broke away from this ubiquitous Mac mimicry.)

Ah so I guess XFCE, KDE, and MATE are all just pretty much the same DE then.

Out of those XFCE supports basic theming, etc. It's very usable even on most modest machines.

KDE and MATE support all XFCE does, but they have each their own community driven ecosystem of extensions that are not cross-supported:

- KDE has https://store.kde.org/browse , and non-federated too

- MATE has a variety of non-federated plugins with no centralized-store like Compiz (which has it's own plugin ecosystem https://www.compiz-fusion.org/wiki_subdomain/welcome.html), and more

KDE is fully based on graphics accelerated drawing, it is expected AFAIK. MATE is mostly software-rendered unless extended with Compiz.

Basically, yeah. They can all be made to look and feel identical to each other, and their functionalities are supersets of MacOS launcher functionality set.

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Post by culebron21 »

jklinger410 wrote: post #205
culebron21 wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The claim is Mate can do almost everything this DE does, so switching to yet another wannabe Mac DE isn't worth the hassle. (I'd be interested had they broke away from this ubiquitous Mac mimicry.)

Ah so I guess XFCE, KDE, and MATE are all just pretty much the same DE then.

Exactly. I switched from XFCE to MATE only because the former was very buggy. Except for their control panels, the differences are cosmetic.
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