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Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by rochacon »

pxc wrote: post #165
wwalexander wrote: post #2

I never thought I’d see the day macOS would get tiling window management. Wonder how it will interact with Stage Manager if at all.

You still haven't seen that day, have you? macOS still offers only a floating window manager, now with some window snapping capabilities. But there is no mode or window manager built into macOS where new windows are arranged in tiles spanning the whole screen by default.

Exactly, by the description of it on the announcement, this is not "tiling window management" as we're used in Linux, this is just "Window Snaping" that been available on Windows and Linux for what, a decade now?

I really hope there is a "automatic tiling" option, otherwise this is just mouse support for the current "Move Window"/"Tile Window" options already available on the OS (and easily bindable via custom shortcuts).

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by LogHouse »

sunshowers wrote: post #119
imbnwa wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the scaling issue?

Not GP, but macOS doesn't have fractional scaling, which means that running at non-integer scales is inefficient. For example: A 3840x2160 monitor run at 1x means a framebuffer of 3840x2160. At 2x, the effective resolution is 1920x1080, and this also uses a framebuffer of 3840x2160. At 1.5x, the effective resolution is 2560x1440. This is implemented by rendering at 4x (5160x2880) and then downscaling that. At 1.25x,…

The worst part is that third party solutions (eg BetterDisplay) work. So Apple could find this if they wanted with ease. No clue why they’re so stubborn on it

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by justinator »

ttul wrote: post #167
justinator wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

80% of those 20% of the times it doesn't work, it's just because the receiver's phone either doesn't have Bluetooth turned on, or it just isn't unlocked.

And the remaining 20%… total mystery.

95% is pretty good when I'm Airdropping, "dumb shit I did last night".

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by yunwal »

woah wrote: post #187
adamors wrote: post #24

Should have called it Sherlock as they seem to be Sherlocking a lot of apps. For instance I only use Fantastical because I can see my reminders with my events, I assume many people will also switch from a paid password manager to this as well.

I'm guessing (and Apple is probably betting) that far more new users of Passwords will be switching from not having used a password manager at all, not switching from a different password manager. I pay for Bitwarden, and will probably continue doing so because I can't be bothered to switch.

Also until Passwords is easily usable on non-Apple devices, there’ll be a place for password managers.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by dmix »

This seems like one of the best MacOS release I can remember

I hold Snow Leopard to high esteem still because it made everything faster and smoother.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by nativeit »

karmakaze wrote: post #151
wwalexander wrote: post #2

I never thought I’d see the day macOS would get tiling window management. Wonder how it will interact with Stage Manager if at all.

I never really understood the appeal of tiling window managers. I've gotten used to having overlapping windows with appropriate parts peek out out behind others. e.g. tail of a log behind an editor running a program, and I can bring it to the foreground to see older lines and/or scroll. To do the same with a tiling manager, I would zoom the logging pane. I suppose I just prefer less layout changes. Same for Slack, I…

I have a 55” 4k television that wasn’t being used, and as a joke plugged it into my Mac Mini, and with a tiling window manager it’s functionally 4 decent sized FHD monitors at once. I have left it plugged in much longer than I thought I would, it’s really much more functional than I’d imagined. I still probably prefer a regular 1440p display, for most tasks.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by nativeit »

rochacon wrote: post #201
pxc wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still haven't seen that day, have you? macOS still offers only a floating window manager, now with some window snapping capabilities. But there is no mode or window manager built into macOS where new windows are arranged in tiles spanning the whole screen by default.

Exactly, by the description of it on the announcement, this is not "tiling window management" as we're used in Linux, this is just "Window Snaping" that been available on Windows and Linux for what, a decade now? I really hope there is a "automatic tiling" option, otherwise this is just mouse support for the current "Move Window"/"Tile Window" options already available on the OS (and easily bindable via custom shortc…

When did “Linux” settle on a single window manager? There have been 3rd-party solutions for Mac for years, I don’t understand what’s different about that versus Linux, which comes with nothing by default, not even a graphical interface.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by makeitdouble »

adamors wrote: post #24

Should have called it Sherlock as they seem to be Sherlocking a lot of apps. For instance I only use Fantastical because I can see my reminders with my events, I assume many people will also switch from a paid password manager to this as well.

Can you use an arbitrary account in the new password app ?

The screenshots had no indication of it, and it doesn't seem to have a web counterpart.

One of the major PITA for keychain was the association with your logged in AppleID. If it 's still that way, I don't see a real appeal for people who already went their way to pay for a full-fledge product.

Imagine killing your phone and asking a nearby friend to borrow theirs to quickly cancel an appointment to give you time to deal with it. That's the kind of situation that should be gracefully handled by a password manager service.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by astrange »

sunshowers wrote: post #119
imbnwa wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the scaling issue?

Not GP, but macOS doesn't have fractional scaling, which means that running at non-integer scales is inefficient. For example: A 3840x2160 monitor run at 1x means a framebuffer of 3840x2160. At 2x, the effective resolution is 1920x1080, and this also uses a framebuffer of 3840x2160. At 1.5x, the effective resolution is 2560x1440. This is implemented by rendering at 4x (5160x2880) and then downscaling that. At 1.25x,…

Non-integer scaling is essentially impossible to do well unless you give up and turn all your UI design into web pages. Otherwise you get pixel cracks and other issues from finding all the places things are/aren't rounded properly.

The laptop displays work by scaling down 2x/3x too.

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