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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by pupppet »

rickharrison wrote: post #155
m_a_g wrote: post #145

I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.

1password has progressively gotten worse every year for the past 5-10. 1password team if you are reading this, please stop making your software worse. Search which was great for years is now terrible and has jumbled results. Some software should just be considered "done" and never changed again. 1Password is one of those things.

I dislike the new search so much, just make search work like it does in every other application. If you're reinventing the wheel for something so basic that's the first sign you're doing something very wrong.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by sunshowers »

m_a_g wrote: post #145

I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.

Same, I'm actually a bit of a late adopter (only started using 1p in earnest once they came out with a Linux client) but it's been so great. I absolutely love the SSH agent in particular, it just works.

On topic, as a primarily Linux user I'm not in the target market for this (or any other Apple products or services really) and that's fine.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by vbezhenar »

Good. I already switched to iCloud Passwords for all my needs, but it's not very convenient now. No way to store bank card info, no way to store ssh passwords (I'm using fake domain myserver.ssh.com, but that's weird), no way to store key files. Hopefully it'll get better.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by wiseowise »

throw0101d wrote: post #120
mmanfrin wrote: post #35

Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. Apple devices already basically have a password manager, the main reason more people don't use it it is because it doesnt also work on android or windows, not because it's not a standalone app called Passwords.

> Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. As mentioned in another news article on the topic: > It also syncs with PCs via the iCloud for Windows app. * https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24175505/apple-password-a... and in the keynote itself: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek&t=59m32s

Just need to install windows on my phone, duh.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by jimt1234 »

AnonC wrote: post #109
shallichange wrote: post #51

Why would I use it over Bitwarder?

Mainly depends on which platforms you use. If you’re using Bitwarden on Android and/or Linux, then this isn’t a replacement. If you’re on Apple’s iOS/iPadOS/macOS or are on Windows, you can use this. These are also native apps, unlike Bitwarden’s Electron monstrosity on the desktop. Bitwarden has been lagging in implementing any consumer features for some years now (custom item types has been on the roadmap for six y…

> Bitwarden has been lagging in implementing any consumer features for some years now...

This is actually the reason why I like Bitwarden. They don't seem to be constantly trying to push unwanted features on me. I've always been a fan of the first "rule" of the Unix Philosophy: do one thing well.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by ivan_gammel »

rickharrison wrote: post #155
m_a_g wrote: post #145

I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.

1password has progressively gotten worse every year for the past 5-10. 1password team if you are reading this, please stop making your software worse. Search which was great for years is now terrible and has jumbled results. Some software should just be considered "done" and never changed again. 1Password is one of those things.

I don’t really understand this kind of comments that complain without any specifics. Worse how? I use two family subscriptions and a corporate one for many years and haven’t noticed any regression in functionality or UX. They release time to time minor quality of life improvements and continue supporting modern platforms. 1P7 to 1P8 upgrade went without any problems on all platforms I use. IMO this is the best password manager on the market by many measures.

What is your experience exactly?

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by brailsafe »

dylan604 wrote: post #170
max_ wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the reasons for bad software products & corporations taking advantage of users is this free loader mindset. What exactly is wrong with paying $10 per year for a well done product?

If it were $10, we might have a conversation. I paid for my full version of 1Pass way back when, and upgraded all the way through to v7. It was a one time fee and used until they broke it. I never said refused to pay for it, but a monthly fee in perpetuity is just ridiculous to me.

I'm still on v7, what did they break?

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by squeegee_scream »

blawson wrote: post #160
m_a_g wrote: post #145

I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.

1Password + Fastmail integration for generating masked email is also great. Plus a nice UI for handling OTP, notes, credit cards, IDs, bank accounts, etc, it's easily worth the annual price for me.

Omg yes! Fastmail + 1P is soooo good. 1P has an integration with privacy.com to create unique debit cards. With these 3 tools I have a unique email, pw, and debit card for each service. Makes me feel in control over my interaction with a service. Here’s my referral link for privacy if you’re interested

https://privacy.com/join/JCPFN

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by msie »

AnonC wrote: post #102
msie wrote: post #70

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Where did you get that impression from? The WWDC keynote mentioned recording calls on iPhone (with transcription) and said that the other end would be notified when you start recording.

Oh really? Unfortunately i didn’t see the keynote this time and i didn’t see this in any online summaries. Didn’t expect they’d do it this time! Ive been asking for it in prev years. But does it record audio? This is good if you get to keep audio!

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by PlunderBunny »

I've never understood why there are some passwords that exist in the macOS keychain app that don't appear in the Passwords section of the macOS System Settings (I think the password for my WiFi hotspot is one of them). Can anyone explain this? Will the new Password app have 'everything' in it?

I always end up looking in the Keychain app to be sure to find what I'm looking for, but I dislike that app because it often takes several password entries to get to see a password.

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