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Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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Where did he claim it is fast? As far as I can see the only claim is that it scales linearly with cores. Which it actually seems to do.

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You're missing some context, it's not bitonic sort itself that would present an issue with GPUs, it's the "with immutable tree rotations" part, which in a naive implementation would imply some kind of memory management that would have trouble scaling to thousands of cores.

Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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OP comes around with some of the coolest things posted in HN recently, and all he gets is extensive criticism, when it is clear that this is an early version :/

I think HN is a community where people want to post something novel or new. When someone wants to post a kudos, most likely they'll upvote someone else instead of posting yet another "awesome job" (even if it is certainly warranted). Criticism instead can be endlessly diverse since there's usually only limited number ways to get it right, but plenty to get wrong.

In the end, HN comments fall prey to this truth and you see a handful of positive comments, with the majority being criticisms or "I wish this did X". No one person is to blame. Its just the culture of technologists today.

Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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OP comes around with some of the coolest things posted in HN recently, and all he gets is extensive criticism, when it is clear that this is an early version :/

Correction for you - This is patently false, OP has had three hits -- this one, and two one hundred pointers out of 100-200 submissions. P.s. it seems rather likely the op is Victor Taelin, they mostly submit his tweets and gists. Who are you rooting for, exactly, newcomer? P.p.s. Victor Taelin just happens to be the most recent committer on this submission, imagine that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35363400

I have no idea what you're trying to convey, but I'm Victor Taelin. Also very cool comment on that thread, hypothesizing on whether we'd be able to ever run it on GPUs. We did it! That is what we're announcing today.

Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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Correction for you - This is patently false, OP has had three hits -- this one, and two one hundred pointers out of 100-200 submissions. P.s. it seems rather likely the op is Victor Taelin, they mostly submit his tweets and gists. Who are you rooting for, exactly, newcomer? P.p.s. Victor Taelin just happens to be the most recent committer on this submission, imagine that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35363400

We're a bit off-topic, but there's no requirement that your account be associated with your identity, especially when the op is pretty clearly involved with the project (as opposed to if they were claiming not to be or something).

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Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

#205

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Correction for you - This is patently false, OP has had three hits -- this one, and two one hundred pointers out of 100-200 submissions. P.s. it seems rather likely the op is Victor Taelin, they mostly submit his tweets and gists. Who are you rooting for, exactly, newcomer? P.p.s. Victor Taelin just happens to be the most recent committer on this submission, imagine that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35363400

I have no idea what you're trying to convey, but I'm Victor Taelin. Also very cool comment on that thread, hypothesizing on whether we'd be able to ever run it on GPUs. We did it! That is what we're announcing today.

Great, thanks for clarifying.

Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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"Future" has some mild speed implications but it sounds like you're doing reasonably there, bug nonwithstanding.

It also has "Not yet" implications ...

I've always taken 'Welcome to the Future' as the thing being presented is futuristic and exists now in the present. Not 'in the future we will welcome you to the future' - while that is a nice sentiment it's utterly useless. To point out the obvious - of course futuristic things exist in the future and of course I have to wait for the future to happen.

Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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> it is allocating 2 IC nodes for each numeric operation, while Python is not While that's true, Python would be using big integers (PyLongObject) for most of the computations, meaning every number gets allocated on the heap. If we use a Python implementation that would avoid this, like PyPy or Cython, the results change significantly: % cat sum.py def sum(depth, x): if depth == 0: return x else: fst = sum(depth-1, x…

The only claim I made is that it scales linearly with cores. Nothing else! I'm personally putting a LOT of effort to make our claims as accurate and truthful as possible, in every single place. Documentation, website, demos. I spent hours in meetings to make sure everything is correct. Yet, sometimes it feels that no matter how much effort I put, people will just find ways to misinterpret it. We published the real be…

The claim from the website is "automatically achieves near-ideal speedup".

Re: Bend: a high-level language that runs on GPUs (via HVM2)

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OP comes around with some of the coolest things posted in HN recently, and all he gets is extensive criticism, when it is clear that this is an early version :/

I would be pretty appreciated if people criticize my project. That is how you grow. If people tend hide cruel truth behind applause, the world would just crumbled.
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