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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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And probably all of the big tech CEOs are trying to get him on the phone right now.

Except all the big tech CEOs have head AI honchos who are huge names in their own right, eg yann for meta and demis for Google. Probably couldn't bring him into those places without ruffling some pretty big feathers

Not Apple... At least as far as I known.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Probably not related, but it's worth pointing out that Daniel Kokotajlo (https://www.lesswrong.com/users/daniel-kokotajlo) left last month.

But if it were related, then that would presumably be because people within the company (or at least two rather noteworthy people) no longer believe that OpenAI is acting in the best interests of humanity.

Which isn't too shocking really given that a decent chunk of us feel the same way, but then again, we're just nobodies making dumb comments on Hacker News. It's a little different when someone like Ilya really doesn't want to be at OpenAI.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Catching up right now is not a matter of tech innovation, but raw energy and compute. Of course, the next -revolution- in AI could very well come from Ilya. But why would he bestow that honor to anyone? He can self fund it if he wants. It's an R&D project, not a scaling problem.

If that is the case, why hasn't Google caught up yet?

Because Google is huge. Presumably the same reason why Microsoft finds it easier to shovel billions into OpenAI instead of doing it in-house.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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There’s a halo around Ilya Sutskever as the Albert Einstein of AI. Are there others on par with his— umm, how would you qualify it—- AI intuition or are we idolizing?

You have used an excellent term: AI intuition. This quality is extremely rare. Einstein probably had a similar kind of intuition in physics, and maybe that's why he was so successful. The ability to see what direction to pursue. Ilya has demonstrated it again and again, first with Alexnet (Hinton said Ilya was the person driving the project, believing in its success when no one else did, while Alex was the main imple…

There's no AGI yet. It's unclear that scaling up existing models gets anyone there. But if it was already here, alignment would be too late.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

Catching up right now is not a matter of tech innovation, but raw energy and compute. Of course, the next -revolution- in AI could very well come from Ilya. But why would he bestow that honor to anyone? He can self fund it if he wants. It's an R&D project, not a scaling problem.

> Catching up right now is not a matter of tech innovation, but raw energy and compute.

I don't really understand that. ChatGPT is not all that impressive as an actual tool for many things. It doesn't really seem to matter to me what energy and compute is going into it. Will it make it actually work?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have used an excellent term: AI intuition. This quality is extremely rare. Einstein probably had a similar kind of intuition in physics, and maybe that's why he was so successful. The ability to see what direction to pursue. Ilya has demonstrated it again and again, first with Alexnet (Hinton said Ilya was the person driving the project, believing in its success when no one else did, while Alex was the main imple…

Einstein famously disagreed with many facets of QM that we now believe to be true or at least closer to the truth than he was.

Doesn't that depend on the interpretation of QM? There are still physicists who defend hidden variables and determinism. It should be noted Einstein was arguing with the founders of the Copenhagen interpretation, which has left many physicists dissatisfied. Sean Carol being a prominent current detractor (although is version of determinism is Many Worlds).

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Personality cult.

Elon Musk and Larry Page broke their friendship over Ilya's move from Google to OpenAI. There's more than just cult around a personality here, when two of the most powerful people in tech, who are also friends, go to war over you.

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