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What documentary is that?
https://whereto.stream/tv/235540
I've never seen this site before as I usually just use justwatch.com. Gonna check this one out though. Thanks for linking!
NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul
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Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul
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"Society" and "Civilization" are very loaded terms, and by "Society" Wang specifically meant the community aspect of society. For example, he is very positive about the kind of direct democracy he saw in Belmont, MA (the classic New England Town Meeting), and viewed that as a cornerstone of American society, along with a shared vision of innovation and development. Fundamentally, the core pieces of America that Wang…
Thanks. I still think civilization without society works pretty well as a (necessarily lossy) compression. The US as a civilization without a sense of communitarian civics. The presence of such in rare cases (e.g. Belmont) puts its broader absence into sharper relief.
> The presence of such in rare cases (e.g. Belmont)
I thought it's fairly common to live in a town with a town hall meetings or PTA meetings? Or visit city hall or met your city council in elementary school?
It's the norm in most suburban towns (use the local PTA meeting as the Town Meeting instead depending on the suburb).
If you live within a big city, then it's a different story of course (city government is absolutely not community driven), but only 12% of Americans live in Urban areas/cities [0] and 69% live in suburbs.
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We had a minor scandal here in Canada. The same company behind Vuse vapes (Imperial Tobacco of Canada) got approval for an oral product that falls in the same category as nicotine gum, legally. Not heavily controlled. The regulators had apparently never considered that someone might try to market nicotine gum to children who do not use any nicotine products. It was approved as normal, just another off-brand nicotine…
I always laugh when governments express surprise when companies exploit loopholes in the law. Here we have an amoral entity whose only purpose and incentive is to find ways to make money, and you're surprised that they hire a bunch of staff to figure out all the loopholes and how to make money against the spirit of the law but while sticking exactly to the letter of the law? You weren't "duped." You wrote a law witho…
Personally, I find it deeply troubling that we've come so far along the "free-trade" axis that companies are presumed immoral by default. There is no way to have a high-functioning society when one large part is actively undermining the social contract of society.
That the general public sees this as fait-accompli and seems to be cheering it on is not funny, it's tragic.
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We socialized people to realize smoking is dirty, then went ahead and legalized marijuana so now kids who would never have smoked cigarettes are filling their lungs with tar: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/14/health/marijuana-smoke-wellne... . At least cigarettes made people skinny and hot.
Way more of those kids are vaping marijuana, which has an orders of magnitude lower threat profile than both smoking AND tobacco vape oil rigs. Also, even full smoking of marijuana is less dirty than smoking cigs, and a significant amount of marijuana smokers use things like bongs, bubblers, and other water filtration systems which do (slightly) reduce the harm of the smoke. Marijuana is straight up harm reduction ov…
> Marijuana is straight up harm reduction over big tobacco
Not as big of a harm reduction as people not smoking anything, which is where we were heading in the 1990s before marijuana legalization.
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Have you had said addiction, and if so have you tried to quit it?
I do have the addiction and I have quit before but it’s really hard. That was when I smoked cigarettes and needed to quit because I was severely harming my body. I now vape with a 100% vegetable glycerin and nicotine mix that is fully unflavored so I haven’t found the need to quit again because frankly the health risks are very low.
I’ve quit as well and imo there’s no “quit before,” it’s quit or still doing it.
I respect your opinion but I can’t really take a nicotine addict’s claim that the substance isn’t harmful, when the addict hasn’t actually ever quit the chemical.
Somehow along the way “quit” got subbed in with “vaping but it’s basically the same as quit.” Biggest marketing con the industry has ever pulled.
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#206It really is amazing. We were thiiiiiiis close to having a generation that wasn't addicted to nicotine for the first time in hundreds of years (like, since trade between North America and Europe really became a thing) and these guys pulled this thumb drive that tastes like cotton candy out of nowhere and every young person is just jonesing . And the regulatory/public opinion environment isn't what it was in the 80s a…
> Imagine a company being told today that they now have to stop advertising on billboards, can't advertise to kids, and have to pay a fifth of a trillion dollars over 25 years for the harms they caused to Medicaid. Can't, can you? That's what's happening to Juul right now. Juul e-cigarettes came out in 2015; 2018 had the first consent decree to not advertise anywhere kids might see the advertisements; by 2021, we had…
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Marijuana is legal for recreational use in the states where most people live. I'm in a Romney 2012 county and there's a giant dispensary on the main street that looks like an Apple store.
It is still a schedule 1 drug subject to criminal federal prosecution for possession and sale. The feds are just ignoring their obligation to uphold the law.
I mean its literally at this time in the process of being downgraded to probably schedule 2 or even schedule 3 once research is ACTUALLY allowed.
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#208How is this any different than influencers being required to disclose a paid promotion by the FTC?
It's because the scientific community has much more influence over the society than the so called influencers. Scientific community's pride is the peer review system, thus if anyone is found to be corrupt they need to be quicking on calling them out. People in general know that influencers can be selling bullshit, but do not expect licensed doctors or scientists to be selling them too.
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#209I'm sure there are negative impacts of vaping and it should definitely be more heavily regulated. But the neutering of Juul only to allow dozens of Chinese clones to take their place was such a huge blunder.
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I just get the tobacco flavored pods, use them up, and refill with various nicotine salt liquids. I get ten to twenty refills out of a cartridge. Haven't found a juice that matches the OG mango pods but I have a few in rotation that I like. I do miss the brief Cambrian explosion in third-party pods, before the FDA decided that "the youf" should switch to disposables, but at this point I'm just grateful that Juul is s…
It never occurred to me that you could refill spent pods, thats awesome I'll have to check that out. Any specific recommendations for scratching the OG mango itch? I've been wanting to switch to an even lower potency too, like 1% I'm also grateful juul is still around at all, I haven't found any other device with such a nice small and flat form factor. Everything else bulges out of my pockets
I'm fond of the PATCHA brand, Sorbet and Purple Mango in particular.
The latter isn't much like OG mango, fair warning, but you'll probably like it if you were a fan of the old school.
The trick with refilling is to press the sides in when replacing the rubber stopper. If you do it right, you'll see a bubble or two rise up from the bottom. If you skip this part it will leak everywhere. Also, blow through the cart several times to clear the tube. It's a bit fiddly at first, but you'll get the hang of it.