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Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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How does whatsapp make money? (At all, and how much?) It's not possible it makes as much as the main Meta properties. It has no ads on anything people use.

They have a business api and take a cut of transaction fees on whatsapp pay. And they obviously cross-reference the data with Instagram/FB to sell you stuff.

Meta does not have access to your WhatsApp chats as they are end to end encrypted.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

#202
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I thought that this earnings announcement would be the first one where we'd see some impact from competitive knowledge engines, e.g. Perplexity, You.com, ChatGPT + Bing, etc., but Google still grew search $6B/15%. This is impressive both because it's hard to keep such a big business growing at that rate and because essentially everyone in my social circle has moved on from going to Google first for information. I gue…

Also worth noting that ChatGPT, while big in tech circles, most people don't use it day to day.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

#203

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They have a business api and take a cut of transaction fees on whatsapp pay. And they obviously cross-reference the data with Instagram/FB to sell you stuff.

Meta does not have access to your WhatsApp chats as they are end to end encrypted.

As long as you and the recipient has encrypted backups turned on How to enable end-to-end encrypted backup[0]

[0]: https://faq.whatsapp.com/490592613091019

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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post #9

I thought that this earnings announcement would be the first one where we'd see some impact from competitive knowledge engines, e.g. Perplexity, You.com, ChatGPT + Bing, etc., but Google still grew search $6B/15%. This is impressive both because it's hard to keep such a big business growing at that rate and because essentially everyone in my social circle has moved on from going to Google first for information. I gue…

First, most lucrative markets like travel, product search etc. are still all on Google. Certain growth in them is coming along with GDP growth.

Second, Google can still be optimizing/increasing no. of ads served.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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Also...10,000 fired... Employees previous equivalent quarter:190,711 and now:180,895 Edit: 190,711 employees on March 31, 2023

Layoff is not the same as "fired". Please use the correct terminology in consideration for those who lost their jobs. Also, the termination dates for those who were laid off in January 2023 would be around April 2023 (the layoff news came earlier due to WARN act), so the employee count as of 2023-03-31 might not include those people. This means a difference of ~10000 can be accounted for by the 2023-01-20 round of la…

this isn’t a fucking HR email thread, fired means layoff in these lands

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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post #18

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Also...10,000 fired... Employees previous equivalent quarter:190,711 and now:180,895 Edit: 190,711 employees on March 31, 2023

Layoff is not the same as "fired". Please use the correct terminology in consideration for those who lost their jobs. Also, the termination dates for those who were laid off in January 2023 would be around April 2023 (the layoff news came earlier due to WARN act), so the employee count as of 2023-03-31 might not include those people. This means a difference of ~10000 can be accounted for by the 2023-01-20 round of la…

2023-03-31 would have been after the last day for the January layoff group, at least for US workers not in the NY office.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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post #18

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Also...10,000 fired... Employees previous equivalent quarter:190,711 and now:180,895 Edit: 190,711 employees on March 31, 2023

Layoff is not the same as "fired". Please use the correct terminology in consideration for those who lost their jobs. Also, the termination dates for those who were laid off in January 2023 would be around April 2023 (the layoff news came earlier due to WARN act), so the employee count as of 2023-03-31 might not include those people. This means a difference of ~10000 can be accounted for by the 2023-01-20 round of la…

In what world is “laid off” better than “fired”? Either way the company screwed you, doesn’t matter how they justify it

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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post #9

I thought that this earnings announcement would be the first one where we'd see some impact from competitive knowledge engines, e.g. Perplexity, You.com, ChatGPT + Bing, etc., but Google still grew search $6B/15%. This is impressive both because it's hard to keep such a big business growing at that rate and because essentially everyone in my social circle has moved on from going to Google first for information. I gue…

Perplexity especially is absolute garbage for 99% of people and their use cases. Google search is instant, available from every browser window and works with minimal keystrokes. LLM based search is such a bad experience on mobile where verifying the likely nonsense response is even more of an expensive task.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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I think that most of the traffic being stolen away is going to be for low value searches. I (and probably almost everyone else) use Google when I already know what I want, ie I’m trying to get to a company’s website to buy a particular thing, but don’t know their url name. I’m not going to use an LLM to shop for car insurance or look for hotels.

LLM responses have also started embedding ads [1], or LLM responses are themselves ads [2] - [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/17ky9sg/first_time... - [2] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/reddit-sneaky-ai-spa...

Ok, but if you’re a well off 40 something mom trying to buy your daughter tickets to a Taylor Swift concert, what would you do? I’m willing to bet that the proportion of people using Perplexity to those using Google to search for concert tickets this past quarter was infinitesimal. Or those shopping for new cars. Or airline tickets. Or furniture. Or lawyers. Or health care. I can go on.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

#210
Personally I use google more/just as much for product searches; stores selling X, finding comparison sites, going to the manufacturers page for a product.

That and restaurants from maps.

I use it less for information based searches, but that almost seems to be a win from an advertiser perspective.

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