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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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bigthymer wrote: post #132
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #106

I must be some sort of freak. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use. In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to…

I think we have the same taste from the 2000s on. If you had to recommend one artist\track I probably haven't heard of yet, which would it be?

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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by patchorang »

bigthymer wrote: post #132
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #106

I must be some sort of freak. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use. In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to…

I think we have the same taste from the 2000s on. If you had to recommend one artist\track I probably haven't heard of yet, which would it be?

I have a very similar history as well, so jumping in. You've probably heard of the artist, John Frusciante. But probably not the album, Maya.

The guitarist for RHCP is making the best modern IDM.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by LegitShady »

tzs wrote: post #166

For people in their mid-30s and beyond I think a big factor in them commonly perceiving that today's popular music sucks compared to the popular music of their teens and twenties is that when they listen to music from their younger days now it is a small subset of what they were actually listening to back then. For example my teens and twenties were in the '70s and '80s. If I decide I want to listen to music from tho…

a lot of this is your choices. You may be choosing to engage less with new music.

I spend at least an hour each week doing something that I can also listen to new music at the same time, and I add it to my favorites, so that those dark AI recommendations start adding similar recommendations to my listening mixes. I don't listen to top 100 because by and large I don't like it. In modern music my taste has shifted away from prog rock and classic into techno/psytrance/etc. All it took was spending a bit of time looking, every week, to enrich my taste in music and make sure I wasn't repeating the stuff I heard on the radio growing up forever.

It's up to you to do it. It's your choice to make.

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Post by detourdog »

redwall_hp wrote: post #181
lapcat wrote: post #168

I find it interesting that GenZ and Millennials show a much smaller preference for their own decade's music. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_pr... The 1980s are still doing quite well among all but the oldest generation. Is it possible that music may actually be getting worse? Corporatized, consolidated, computerized. Look at Hollywood now too: everything is a sequel, prequel, remake, reboot…

Music has become more stratified. The 90s through the present have been an ongoing escalation of music being democratized more and more, from the rise of the DAW in the late 90s to iTunes and P2P sharing to YouTube and music streaming. So there is vastly more music now, and people have more opportunity to find things that suit their tastes. People listen to a wider variety of music and the same Billboard notion of po…

This seems like a really good take on the situation. I usually disagree that discoverability as a problem. Discoverability could be why my tastes have stagnated.

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Post by joshmarinacci »

TehCorwiz wrote: post #118
doublepg23 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so DJs had to break new songs, styles, and have a wide array of music offered (within the theme of the station). I'm an older Zoomer and this was never the case for radio in my lifetime [1]. I heard "college radio stations" being a bastion of this but I've never listened to one myself. One of the earliest internet services I remember loving was Pandora because it recommended me artists I never heard on the radio an…

Late Gen-X/Early Millennial here; there was a time before the consolidation of radio stations and invasion of iHeartMedia (at the time named Clear Channel) where DJs had the final word in what got played and most were quite good at introducing new music. Here's my experience form the outside of the industry: once consolidation started there was a push to use canned (pre-recorded) intros, outros, and interstitial anno…

You are correct. There used to be a limit. Radio was deregulated in the 90s and by the early 2000s local DJ selected music was essentially gone.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by thom »

I listened to a lot of Apple Music recommendations while getting my three kids to sleep over the years. I would say that in my 40s I’m discovering more new music, and music I genuinely love, than I did in all my teens. I don’t get to go to a lot of gigs, but I go to one big festival a year and it’s the bands in a tiny font that I get excited about. Yeah most stuff is shit, but there’s just so much of everything.

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Post by RIMR »

Zancarius wrote: post #122
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #106

I must be some sort of freak. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use. In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to…

I don't think you're completely alone, but you're probably statistically insignificant (don't worry, I'm right there with you). Like you, I can't stand the music I grew up with all that much (maybe a few songs here and there), but I went through the trance/electronic fixation in the 2000s. Now it's almost anything that I enjoy, which probably doesn't say much, but I'm presently listening to some chillstep and was lis…

I actually wonder if staying receptive to new music into or past middle age is enhanced by autism. I am a male on the spectrum, in my late 30's, and absolutely nothing about this article rings true to me. I generally operate on a 5 year cycle where I completely reinvent my musical interests, stop enjoying lots of tracks that I used to love (I hate just about eveything I loved at 14), and hang onto a handful of tracks that I consider timeless.

I am already feeling myself reach the end of one of these cycles where I am digging through netlabels and indie internet radio stations looking for the next niche subgenre to become addicted to.

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

I don't believe music was better in my day but I do think the older you get the harder it is to find things that sound truly fresh (e.g. someone like black midi would probably blow me away if I was 16 now but instead they just keep reminding me of various acts I've heard before years ago)

Similarly I find myself being a lot more interested in competent but not especially ambitious late period albums by acts where their comfort with knowing what their sound is and how to play with it can be the main source of interest.

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Post by dools »

thom wrote: post #206

I listened to a lot of Apple Music recommendations while getting my three kids to sleep over the years. I would say that in my 40s I’m discovering more new music, and music I genuinely love, than I did in all my teens. I don’t get to go to a lot of gigs, but I go to one big festival a year and it’s the bands in a tiny font that I get excited about. Yeah most stuff is shit, but there’s just so much of everything.

Yeah I'm more open minded now than I was when I was younger. All my taste seems to stem from the same roots (for example I like a wide variety of electronic music but the common thread is sounds and/or harmonies rooted in funk/soul/jazz/blues) but when I was a teenager I was only interested in rap music.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by MattJ100 »

bdw5204 wrote: post #199
jrussino wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pandora was my go-to circa 2007-2009 and I haven't thought about it in years. Looking back, I discovered a disproportionate amount of the music I like in that timeframe... I'm honestly kind of surprised they're still around (and, if I'm reading your comment correctly, haven't morphed into something entirely unrecognizable in the meantime?)

I use Pandora and subscribe to Premium which allows me to listen to albums on demand. When I started out as a free user after I gave up on Youtube in the background apps, I didn't like Spotify because it kept forcing me to listen to awful songs that it pushes on everybody instead of what I actually wanted to listen to. Pandora was a much better experience as a free user because their "radio" plays music similar to wh…

How does Spotify "force" you to listen to stuff? I have a very different experience. Pandora (many years ago when I tried it) did not let you choose what you wanted to play (e.g. am album) and Spotify did (and still does). I have hundreds of my own playlists on Spotify, and my listening time is split between those, Spotify's "daily mix" playlists (generated from your personal music tastes) and occasionally "discover weekly" (one way I discover new music). I like choosing what music I listen to.
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