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Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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post #197

It would be so cool to have a tail.

Just give it a few years and besides pointed ears this will be doable. Anyways, I was thinking about whether our ancestors also wagged their tails, just like dogs and cats use them. And what were the triggers inside our nervous system.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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Rarely is human genetics this simple. For ages geneticists thought large swaths of the human genome were "junk" and over time more and more of it has been proven to have a purpose or function, it just wasn't readily apparent for various reasons. Think of the human genome as sort of the ultimate dependency hell...

There still is a lot of non-coding dna in there.

If it didn't fulfil a function, then random mutations and deletions during Meiosis would quite quickly get rid of it. Even if it only serves to support the structure of chromosomes or some similarly arcane purpose that we will only discover in a decade or so, it still has a function.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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I believe this suggests that we could CRISPR an embryo to knock-out the offending Alu element in the TBXT gene and the child will develop a tail.

Yes, the genome-layer is nondeterministic. But there are also more layers that are probably just as nondeterministic, adding more complexity to your view.

Other layers include: epigenome-layer, transcriptome-layer, proteome-layer

Each layer can compensate for deficiencies in another layer.

So lets say you knock out a gene in utero and it has a phenotype. But when you do the same procedure in an adult organism, there is no phenotype, although the gene should be important in an adult. It's like phenotype and genotype are two states whose correlation is dependent on many variables. In this example at least time.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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post #180

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I think we'd definitely have to rethink our toilets, though. Don't want your tail hanging in there while you're doing your business.

In much of the world (weighted by humans) people use squat toilets. So, problem is solvable by installing one after your CRISPR tail procedure.

What kind of tail are we looking at? One like a bunny or something like a cat?

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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post #204

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In much of the world (weighted by humans) people use squat toilets. So, problem is solvable by installing one after your CRISPR tail procedure.

What kind of tail are we looking at? One like a bunny or something like a cat?

Something like an ape.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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post #60

Probably good that we lost them. Judging by photos [1] of some of the rare cases of humans who were born with tails human tails wouldn't be aesthetically pleasing. Although perhaps human tails that are the result of something going awry might not be a good indicator of what human tails would be like if we had kept them. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3263034/

Clearly you haven't heard of catgirls.

Although those photos were more dickbutt than catgirl.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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post #205
post #204

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What kind of tail are we looking at? One like a bunny or something like a cat?

Something like an ape.

Apes don’t have tails.

Something like a monkey, probably.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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post #205

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Something like an ape.

Apes don’t have tails. Something like a monkey, probably.

Ah, I see. I meant monkeys. (and learned the difference, german does not really have a word for ape and I always believed monkey and ape are similar words).

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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post #146

I’d really enjoy a prehensile tail, despite the adaptations required for trousers and chairs. Also, I was enough a nerd growing up that other kids would have pulled it.

i suspect there would be adaptations to a variety of other things like sleep, bipedal locomotion, defecation, etc.

I am pretty sure there would be new dimensions to sexual behavior, details depending on the motor control we'd have.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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I didn't know about that, but it seems a poor trade-off to me. Acute appendicitis is the most common abdominal surgical emergency in the world.

Yet most people never suffer it, while I'd assume 100% of the population suffered bouts of vomiting/diarrhea. Looks like the trade-off is alright.

Yeah, I suspect a lot more people have experienced diarrhea than appendicitis. If preserving gut bacteria is important enough, then the appendix clearly does have a function.

But it might not be that important at all; do people with an appendectomy struggle more to recover from diarrhea?

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