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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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> To reflect this, Bard will now simply be known as Gemini. So glad they are dropping the name Bard which is not a smooth modern sounding name one would want to talk to all day. Time will tell if they update eventually to be hey Gemini vs hey Google.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From one of the earlier announcements Google has made: - Bard is that talkative text interface, a product. - Gemini is the LLM design that currently backs Bard (but also other Google AI products). - Gemini "Basic", Advanced and Ultra are different sizes of that design. This is conjecture, but "Ultra 1.0" probably indicates that they intend to release more models based on the Ultra configuration. Since that's the most…

> To reflect this, Bard will now simply be known as Gemini.

And this completely undercuts my point in my response to sibling comment

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not too confusing, I think it's mostly that they're in the process of changing the naming. - Bard: Retiring this name - Gemini: model name (honestly less confusing than just calling it "GPT") - Gemini Advanced: More capable gemini model - Gemini Ultra: Most capable gemini model - Gemini 1.0: They version their models together, gemini has hit 1.0 ad is (supposedly) ready for prime time

You say it's not confusing but you've got it wrong :) Gemini is the name of the model and the service. Gemini Advanced is the service with access to Gemini Ultra.

Via the “AI Premium” subscription, obviously.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#204

Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

I think the prize for the most confusing naming is a tie between USB and WiFi standards.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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> To reflect this, Bard will now simply be known as Gemini. So glad they are dropping the name Bard which is not a smooth modern sounding name one would want to talk to all day. Time will tell if they update eventually to be hey Gemini vs hey Google.

G products tend to be inferior. So it doesn’t really matter.

Exception is maybe Gmail or Search. Latter is up for debate.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

I’m a human and i dont know the answer to that quesiton

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Proof of Gemini cheating: https://i.imgur.com/eYJDFjS.png Answer about cherries falling from the sky... (there is no question or context beforehand, this is the first question of the chat)

I'm confused on how this is "cheating" isn't it just getting the answer wrong?

It's answering with "cherries", though "cherries" were never mentioned anywhere in the question since the task was to choose between "apples" and "pears" this time,

and not "cherries" and "pears" like the example found on the internet.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Not even close to ChatGPT :/ Bard essentially ignores a good chunk of the prompt which is the most important (generating the anki formatted card that you can directly copy and paste).

"create an anki deck of the top 5 brazilian portuguese verbs and the top 5 tenses. The format should be like the one below (but adding one line for the 5th verb tense). An explanation of the tense and an example sentence should be included. Create the output so that I'm able to copy and paste it into a text file and import to anki

Ser - Presente do Indicativo Eu {{c1::sou}} Ele/Ela {{c1::é}} Nós {{c1::somos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::são}};explanation of tense and example sentence here; Ser - Pretérito Imperfeito do Indicativo Eu {{c1::era}} Ele/Ela {{c1::era}} Nós {{c1::éramos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::eram}};explanation of tense and example sentence here; Ser - Pretérito Perfeito do Indicativo Eu {{c1::fui}} Ele/Ela {{c1::foi}} Nós {{c1::fomos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::foram}};explanation of tense and example sentence here; Ser - Futuro do Indicativo Eu {{c1::serei}} Ele/Ela {{c1::será}} Nós {{c1::seremos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::serão}};explanation of tense and example sentence here;"

GPT 4 (abbreviated) Ser - Presente do Indicativo Eu {{c1::sou}} Ele/Ela {{c1::é}} Nós {{c1::somos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::são}};Used to express a current state. Example: "Eu sou estudante." (I am a student.); Ser - Pretérito Imperfeito do Indicativo Eu {{c1::era}} Ele/Ela {{c1::era}} Nós {{c1::éramos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::eram}};Used for ongoing or habitual actions in the past. Example: "Ele era professor." (He used to be a teacher.); Ser - Pretérito Perfeito do Indicativo Eu {{c1::fui}} Ele/Ela {{c1::foi}} Nós {{c1::fomos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::foram}};Used for actions completed in the past. Example: "Nós fomos amigos." (We were friends.); Ser - Futuro do Indicativo Eu {{c1::serei}} Ele/Ela {{c1::será}} Nós {{c1::seremos}} Eles/Elas {{c1::serão}};Expresses a future action or state. Example: "Ela será médica." (She will be a doctor.); Ser - Presente do Subjuntivo Que eu {{c1::seja}} Que ele/ela {{c1::seja}} Que nós {{c1::sejamos}} Que eles/elas {{c1::sejam}};Used for wishes, doubts, or hypotheticals. Example: "Espero que você seja feliz." (I hope you are happy.);

Bard (abbreviated)

Ser

Presente do Indicativo Eu sou Ele/Ela é Nós somos Eles/Elas são Explanation: The present tense is used to describe actions or states that are happening now. Example sentence: Eu sou estudante. (I am a student.)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#209

I heavily use Chat GPT's API in my day job, as it is the core of our business (Ai-powered startup). When Gemini Pro launched, me and my team tested it in the same day for our product, but we where disappointed as it is was a bit worse than gpt 3.5 (at least in the same prompts that we already had). I really hope that Gemini Ultra surpass gpt4, it is always exciting to see and use new advanced tech, but I'm still a li…

Anybody really surprised at this point? G has had DeepMind in their pockets since ‘12-‘14 and made little advancements. OpenAI changed the game in half the time.

G is inferior and losing the race.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#210

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

If we want to test these beasts in logic, we should probably start using actual formalized logic, rather than English. In just one test, Gemini flopped hard, while GPT-4-Turbo nailed it. Here is my prompt:

    Below is a well-typed CoC function:

    foo
    : ∀(P: Nat -> *)
      ∀(s: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 1)))
      ∀(z: (P 0))
      (P 3)
    = λP λs λz
      (s (s (s z)))

    Below is an incomplete CoC function:

    foo
    : ∀(P: Nat -> *)
      ∀(f: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n * 3)))
      ∀(g: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n * 2)))
      ∀(h: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 5)))
      ∀(z: (P 1))
      (P 17)
    = λP λf λg λh λz
      {{FILL_HERE}}

    Complete it with the correct replacement for {{FILL_HERE}}.
    Your answer must contain only the correct answer, and nothing else.
- *GPT-4-Turbo answer:* `(f (g (h (g z))))` (correct)

- *Gemini Advanced answer:* `h (h (g (f z)))` (wrong)

Also, Gemini couldn't follow the "answer only with the solution" instruction and provided a bunch of hallucinated justifications. I think we have a winner... (screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/GotG0yF)

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