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Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by kanary » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:27 AM UTC

johnkpaul wrote: post #129

Do any of these offer family plans? I feel like At these price points, I would really like to sign up everyone in my household. The FAQ pages seem to all imply individual and I don't think I'm asking for a "business" or "enterprise" option.

Kanary lets you add family members at a 50% discount. Toggle up or down member #s to see pricing on our sign up page: https://www.kanary.com/#sign-up

And as Kanary scans, we suggest members that match your information too to make them easy to add (and these notifications are easily dismissable).

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by kanary » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:29 AM UTC

ColonelBlimp wrote: post #160

erinnh wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s an ok way to do it. And I’ve been subscribed (but not using it) for 2 years. But until Firefox Relay supports custom domains, I am of the opinion that it’s not ideal.

With providers like Addy and SimpleLogin it is possible to use your own domain. > https://addy.io/ > https://simplelogin.io/

addy is great - we've worked with them a bit on our alias backend

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by kanary » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:31 AM UTC

hangonhn wrote: post #147

I really wish employers would pay for a service like this because a lot of spear phishing attacks start with data stole or scraped from brokers, LinkedIn, etc. If a company buys a service like this in bulk, it can get significant discounts. Personally I've resorted to hiding my information on LinkedIn and noticed that I've been passed over by attackers while my coworkers get spear phishing attacks all the time.

Many employers do - we work with plenty of teams and even have specific guidance for how members can ask their HR or Security lead to sponsor a membership.

(some basic info here: https://www.kanary.com/enterprise)

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by kanary » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:34 AM UTC

PascLeRasc wrote: post #144

ary wrote: post #7

I’m a happy, long term Optery user (not affiliated) and they take care of 100% of this for you. https://www.optery.com The Mozilla offering looks somewhat comparable, but I do wonder if they’re going to beat a company which has the sole focus of solving this problem.

Discover bank also offers something like this for free, but I can't tell if it's as capable as other services. https://www.discover.com/security/online-privacy-protection/

Discover's service is limited to only a few sites (which is why it's free). And it is not transparent about progress of removals or requirements.

That might not be the most effective way to reduce spam or reduce targeted attacks, because it ignores many hard to remove exposures.

We have a similar price point at Kanary (I'm the founder) and it covers the resources we invest in the cat & mouse game required to escalate and complete removals on a wide variety of sites, not just a handful of easy ones.

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by kanary » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:38 AM UTC

nickthegreek wrote: post #134

nickthegreek wrote: post #15

Mozilla Monitor Plus - $14/mo, or $108/yr. Too pricey for most. >Every month, we use the information you provided about yourself (name, location and birthdate) to search across ⁨190⁩ data broker sites that sell people’s private information. If we find your data on any of these sites, we initiate the request for removal. Data removal can take anywhere from a day to a month. This feature is available for ⁨Monitor Plus⁩…

Closest thing I can find to roll your own. https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-Li...

Yael's resource is amazing. Highly recommend this open source guide. Also check out Michael Bazzell's how to disappear guides: https://inteltechniques.com/links.html

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by kanary » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:47 AM UTC

dataflow wrote: post #27

Not sure if dumb question: If they use the data you provide (such as your address) to search other data brokers, doesn't that potentially give the data broker MORE information than they already had on you? Do the companies in this space prevent this somehow? Edit: Lest people think this is somehow impossible otherwise - all it should take would be to search for just your name + location, get the query results, then f…

Any 3rd party service or individual doing opt outs should limit data sharing as much as possible. Steps to do that include setting up email aliases, searching data in separate queries, using a proxy or VPN, verifying data exists before sending a data deletion request with all your pii in it, pushing back on any invasive requirement for govt ID...

It's tempting to just automate sending a mass email to all the brokers with your full name, DOB, and address asking for deletion (some services actually do this - beware), but that exposes you to a bunch of new spam.

I've been building Kanary for 4+ years (we're a removal service & YC grant recipient) and we take a conservative approach to each site. I wrote a bit more about why this matters: https://www.kanary.com/blog/dont-get-spammed