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Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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post #138

You know the AI craze is real when adding chat gpt-4 to a text editor is higher priority than Linux and/or Windows support

I’m a Windows user so I was sad about this but I think their reason for doing it like this makes a lot of sense. I’d do the same in their shoes, I think.

The explain it in the 6th question on https://zed.dev/faq

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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It’s likely that Zed does not want users, or wants specific kind of users as this stage of their company maturity. Mac developer is a proxy for the user type Zed is probably aiming to sell service: Western, wealthy, senior. Whileas Windows users are everyone and their uncle. Scaling to large userbase does not make sense if they are not going to pay for your product.

I'm just sour about lack of Linux support, it's like I'm in 1998 again except now instead of Microsoft Windows ignoring us it's Apple macOS. A WINE like project for macOS software would be great

Because if there's one thing Linux needs is a good text editor! :-D

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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I was hoping that zed, because it was designed from the ground up to be a collaborative editor, would allow me to start a dedicated server (headless instance) on a development server/container, and then let me and my colleague both connect to it and work together.

Such functionality would be wildly useful for both remote development and pairing, dev containers etc.

Instead I'll have to stick with VS Code remote develop + live share, of which the latter feels like a monkey patched afterthought.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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post #156

I'm generally a big fan of zed and have been using it for 60%ish of my dev time for 6 months or so. A couple of nice things to note: - It really is remarkably responsive,and makes one really notice how UNresponsive everything else is. I have reasonably fast machines, so we're not talking about the difference between 5ms typing lag and 500ms, but it's still pretty surprising. VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I…

> VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I started using Zed. I guess you haven't used Sublime Text before?

Not in 15ish years and at the time I think I had a 5400rpm hd, so that probably limited any perception of sublime being noticeably faster than other editors I was using (geany, kate). I don't doubt that sublime is faster than vscode today, but the vscode ecosystem is a pretty nice place to be and probably worth trading some speed for, especially on a nice mac where the trade off is probably small. Zed might be even better however.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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post #28

Welcome news, hopefully we could eventually get to a modern highly extensible performant text editor!

This. Sure, Emacs is a modern, highly extensible, performant OS already but we all know it's missing a good text editor!

No it isn’t — evil-mode is a great text editor!

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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post #153

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It does https://docs.zed.dev/general/vim . The support seems limited however, for example 'L' or 'H' movement does not seem to be supported.

What do you mean? "L" and "H" do move the cursor right and left for me just fine. It does not have macro recording/playback or extended commands though so it's not a full fledged vim emulation mode unfortunately.

Yeah, it's pretty annoying for any long-time vim user to not be able to use the macros, which Zed doesn't support. Biggest issue I've had with this editor for sure.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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post #168
post #153

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It does https://docs.zed.dev/general/vim . The support seems limited however, for example 'L' or 'H' movement does not seem to be supported.

What do you mean? "L" and "H" do move the cursor right and left for me just fine. It does not have macro recording/playback or extended commands though so it's not a full fledged vim emulation mode unfortunately.

That’s uppercase L and H to move to bottom or top of the screen

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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> respond to your keystrokes on the next display refresh Claimed insertion latency for a keystroke: - zed 58ms - subl 75ms - vscode 97ms - clion 83ms 60 Hz displays refresh once every ~16.6ms. 58ms to insert a character is ~3.5 frames. My laptop can do 120 Hz, and other monitors can even do 300 Hz. Yeah, it's a lot faster than the other editors, but 58ms seems really slow - definitely not "next display refresh". All…

I'm interested to know what people's insertion latency is on Neovim with similar IDE-like plugins, and LSP and Copilot running.

Same. I'd hope that using LSP and Copilot would not meaningfully impact insertion latency, though - I'd expect those to be fully async, in a separate thread.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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I've been following Zed for quite some time now and happy to see them follow through with the OSS move.

I personally don't like for my editor to send out any kind of external requests at all, and this is actually what keeps me on vim as my main editor. I also don't like limited login options

It would be cool to have a version that's just a stripped down Zed, and if need be you can install the extra stuff as plugins.

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